Cougar Infestation (Twisp)

[Axle]

Axle, You evidently do not know this man. The folks on here that do are laughing at your statement.

No - I sure don't.
What I'm trying to say is that 'we' the hunters are letting the corruption in Seattle and Olympia run our lives and literally destroy our heritage and hunting opportunities. It is sad to see this happening. In the process of ribbing someone for what they did or did not do, it can come across rude. Looks like mine was perceived to be rude.
Laugh all you want but when we wake up one day to a land void of hunting opportunities, many will wish they had done things different.
If someone was offended, then please accept my sincere apologies.
Hopefully we can curb the corruption that is destroying our ungulates before it is too late.

[bearpaw]

Axle, You evidently do not know this man. The folks on here that do are laughing at your statement.

No - I sure don't.
What I'm trying to say is that 'we' the hunters are letting the corruption in Seattle and Olympia run our lives and literally destroy our heritage and hunting opportunities. It is sad to see this happening. In the process of ribbing someone for what they did or did not do, it can come across rude. Looks like mine was perceived to be rude.
Laugh all you want but when we wake up one day to a land void of hunting opportunities, many will wish they had done things different.
If someone was offended, then please accept my sincere apologies.
Hopefully we can curb the corruption that is destroying our ungulates before it is too late.

I figured your comment was misunderstood. 

[singleshot12]

Gotta love sarcasm..sometimes   So Axle what do you think we as hunters(the minority) can actually do to curb our inevitable future.

when our small town becomes big and we are out numbered by anti's do we move or do we fight?

People in my town used to pat me on the back for hunting coyotes. Now I don't even admit to shooting a poor innocent yote for fear of being judged or feeling ashamed. It's time to move,not sure if we have a chance once a town has been yuppified

[Axle]

I figured your comment was misunderstood. 

Thank you

[Axle]

Gotta love sarcasm..sometimes   So Axle what do you think we as hunters(the minority) can actually do to curb our inevitable future.

when our small town becomes big and we are out numbered by anti's do we move or do we fight?

People in my town used to pat me on the back for hunting coyotes. Now I don't even admit to shooting a poor innocent yote for fear of being judged or feeling ashamed. It's time to move,not sure if we have a chance once a town has been yuppified

I don't know that I would call it sarcasm. I was actually trying to be honest while ribbing a guy at the same time. If I ever get week-kneed or become a pansy-@ss, somebody please slap me! I choose to identify myself with guys like George Washington and king David. I will challenge others to be the same. This country wasn't established by guys like Gore and Biden. If somebody is breaking in my front door, I'm not inclined to go out the back door and empty my shotgun into the air (as Biden suggested). What good would that do? If a yote or bobcat or cougar or bear is eating my animals, I will deal with it legitimately. Trying to scare it off only creates a 'habituated' animal that is sure to return. In the end - you end up getting eaten out of house and home. Telling the truth about this can ruffle feathers. I don't care how nice a guy is. I choose to challenge him if I think he is wrong.
For those who don't like my comment, let me say this: when a person has too many mice in the house or barn, what do they do? - they normally poison and trap them to get rid of them and this is socially accepted. When they have opossums, raccoons, coyotes, or bobcats eating their chickens or other animals - what do they do? - they trap them or have somebody else get rid of them and this is currently semi-socially accepted (depends on where you live). If you have a larger predator and you shoot it, for some reason, the gamies, liberals, and corrupt courts take offense to this but the situation is really no different.
If you don't get rid of the numerous predators, you will have no animals for yourself. Cougars, bears, coyotes, and bobcats are simply bigger predators than mice and rats but they pose the same threats and do similar damage (they eat what is rightfully yours).
We are being out-numbered in this current age. Do we move? - that depends on where you are now. Do we stand ground and fight? - sometimes. There are times to stand ground and there are time a guy needs to move on.
I live in a semi-rural area. All of my neighbors love me for keeping predator numbers down. If I don't, then my neighbors and I are held hostage by predators. The corruption in Seattle and Olympia is trying their hardest to hold us hostage. D.C. is much worse!
This forum is a hunting forum. Do you want to hunt deer, goats, sheep, moose, and elk? Do you want your children to hunt too? If so, there is a price to pay. What is that price? - it is keeping the predator numbers low. Mankind was given dominion over the animals. This dominion is 'management'. If you don't manage the predator numbers, then you don't have ungulates to harvest. The corruption in government, which is currently managing for high predator numbers, is destroying what God gave us.
Cougar numbers have been skyrocketing since the 80s and herds have been wiped out by them all over the western states. It's time we take back proper management but now the corruption-in-play has us dealing with the non-native and extremely destructive wolf
which they brought in unlawfully.

[singleshot12]

Now that's a very thorough explanation Axle I like it and hear you loud and clear

And good old corruption,shows it's self like a wolf in sheep's clothing,spreads like the black plague and decays society.

Gotta love sarcasm..sometimes   So Axle what do you think we as hunters(the minority) can actually do to curb our inevitable future.

when our small town becomes big and we are out numbered by anti's do we move or do we fight?

People in my town used to pat me on the back for hunting coyotes. Now I don't even admit to shooting a poor innocent yote for fear of being judged or feeling ashamed. It's time to move,not sure if we have a chance once a town has been yuppified

I don't know that I would call it sarcasm. I was actually trying to be honest while ribbing a guy at the same time. If I ever get week-kneed or become a pansy-@ss, somebody please slap me! I choose to identify myself with guys like George Washington and king David. I will challenge others to be the same. This country wasn't established by guys like Gore and Biden. If somebody is breaking in my front door, I'm not inclined to go out the back door and empty my shotgun into the air (as Biden suggested). What good would that do? If a yote or bobcat or cougar or bear is eating my animals, I will deal with it legitimately. Trying to scare it off only creates a 'habituated' animal that is sure to return. In the end - you end up getting eaten out of house and home. Telling the truth about this can ruffle feathers. I don't care how nice a guy is. I choose to challenge him if I think he is wrong.
For those who don't like my comment, let me say this: when a person has too many mice in the house or barn, what do they do? - they normally poison and trap them to get rid of them and this is socially accepted. When they have opossums, raccoons, coyotes, or bobcats eating their chickens or other animals - what do they do? - they trap them or have somebody else get rid of them and this is currently semi-socially accepted (depends on where you live). If you have a larger predator and you shoot it, for some reason, the gamies, liberals, and corrupt courts take offense to this but the situation is really no different.
If you don't get rid of the numerous predators, you will have no animals for yourself. Cougars, bears, coyotes, and bobcats are simply bigger predators than mice and rats but they pose the same threats and do similar damage (they eat what is rightfully yours).
We are being out-numbered in this current age. Do we move? - that depends on where you are now. Do we stand ground and fight? - sometimes. There are times to stand ground and there are time a guy needs to move on.
I live in a semi-rural area. All of my neighbors love me for keeping predator numbers down. If I don't, then my neighbors and I are held hostage by predators. The corruption in Seattle and Olympia is trying their hardest to hold us hostage. D.C. is much worse!
This forum is a hunting forum. Do you want to hunt deer, goats, sheep, moose, and elk? Do you want your children to hunt too? If so, there is a price to pay. What is that price? - it is keeping the predator numbers low. Mankind was given dominion over the animals. This dominion is 'management'. If you don't manage the predator numbers, then you don't have ungulates to harvest. The corruption in government, which is currently managing for high predator numbers, is destroying what God gave us.
Cougar numbers have been skyrocketing since the 80s and herds have been wiped out by them all over the western states. It's time we take back proper management but now the corruption-in-play has us dealing with the non-native and extremely destructive wolf
which they brought in unlawfully.

[WAcoyotehunter]

Cougar numbers are damaging many areas in Washington.

Some anti-hunting professor from WSU and Conservation Northwest are in control of cougar management in WA. 

conservation NW tried hard to make sHound hunting legal a few years ago. I suspect when more legislation becomes realistic they will be all in

[steen]

There was also three killed in the area earlier in the season wasn't it?  The ones they killed in the pipe? The family had that nice picture of the three of them with the cougars. Not sure if it was the same area though.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Close enough to the same area ...Trust me there is no lack of cats in that area ....they follow the migration !

[PA BEN]

August 05, 1998 Cougar Attacks child
http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/aug0598a/

[wolfbait]

Cougar numbers are damaging many areas in Washington.

Some anti-hunting professor from WSU and Conservation Northwest are in control of cougar management in WA. 

conservation NW tried hard to make sHound hunting legal a few years ago. I suspect when more legislation becomes realistic they will be all in

Are you talking about the same CNW that promotes wolves and works alongside WDFW? Would CNW be afraid too many cats would cut down on wolf prey? Do you think CNW care about other wildlife other then wolves, etc. endangered money makers?

[10thmountainarcher]

August 05, 1998 Cougar Attacks child
http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/aug0598a/

I remember this event well.. The big born feeding station at noisy creek turned into a cougar feeding station and brought the cats right in.  That poor family had bad luck as a lot of them passed in a car accident on 395 later on:(

[villageidiot]

As it turns out amazing as it sounds, yet another cougar was killed 2/26/14 yesterday in the Beaver Creek area Near Twisp.  This one was killed after it crossed the road in front of the hunter out driving around by one of the same group that shot one of 3 out of a big culvert last year.  None of these last five cougars had collars so WDFW likely assumed they were not here.  This is partly true since they sure enough are not here any longer.  He said it was a 90 lb young female.

[Houndhunter]

As it turns out amazing as it sounds, yet another cougar was killed 2/26/14 yesterday in the Beaver Creek area Near Twisp.  This one was killed after it crossed the road in front of the hunter out driving around by one of the same group that shot one of 3 out of a big culvert last year.  None of these last five cougars had collars so WDFW likely assumed they were not here.  This is partly true since they sure enough are not here any longer.  He said it was a 90 lb young female.

No collars on killed lions, shows how much the wdfw knows..... I don't even live there anymore but they still piss me off... Hope this news from the rancher gets the word out, this story here could very well be the final push to get hound hunting back in WA for lion. Funny how this puts all the experts at wdfw in the dirt, they are a JOKE and should be presented as such

I do look forward to the response they give for why this is happening to the rancher in Twisp

[mulehunter]

Wow last year 3 collared out of 4 then this year 5 non-collared!     Seem the young ones are the problem cats....     I hope a permit with hounds go get big Cat soon.