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Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« on: February 21, 2014, 11:42:27 AM »
I'm looking to make my old shotgun look perdy again. But I am curious which one of these I should go with, what are the differences between Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing? Thanks, Kyle

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 03:52:30 PM »
I got my old over under cerakoted this year and it looks awesome. I went with midnight blue and gorge custom coatings did a great job, ended up being about 100 bucks including shipping both ways
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 08:19:50 PM »
I've heard cerakote is a paint, is that true? Is it more durable than bluing?  Anyone know what parkerizing is?. Thanks for reply, Kyle

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 07:21:59 AM »
Parkerizing is a finish applied through an acid bath. The military uses it on its guns (can't be applied to aluminum so not AR's, think WWII guns).

Cerakote is a baked on ceramic coating. It's been proven to be very tough.

Bluing is a generic term for several processes but basically they all leave a thin coat of oxide on the steel. It's not very rust resistant compared to the other two because it is a form of rust.

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 07:49:23 AM »
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2014, 08:19:58 AM »
Cereakote is way more durable than bluing from my experience
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 08:35:56 AM »
So is cerakote impervious to moisture, as in is there any possibility of moisture getting under the coating and rusting from between the barrel and the coating ??

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2014, 08:55:45 AM »
Cerakote it and be done with it.

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2014, 11:07:21 AM »
Parkerizing is a finish applied through an acid bath. The military uses it on its guns (can't be applied to aluminum so not AR's, think WWII guns).

Cerakote is a baked on ceramic coating. It's been proven to be very tough.

Bluing is a generic term for several processes but basically they all leave a thin coat of oxide on the steel. It's not very rust resistant compared to the other two because it is a form of rust.

Parkerizing also can not be applied to Stainless steel.    On M1's & M14's the Gas cyl are stainless
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2014, 01:28:54 PM »
I agree cerakote is more durable check out GH Coatings

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2014, 03:41:37 PM »
I do not thing water can get under cerakote.  Check out gorge custom coatings, they are a sight sponsor and did a great job on my gun.
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2014, 09:46:26 PM »
I do not thing water can get under cerakote.  Check out gorge custom coatings, they are a sight sponsor and did a great job on my gun.
How much did they charge?

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2014, 09:52:58 PM »
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2014, 10:38:16 PM »
I got my old over under cerakoted this year and it looks awesome. I went with midnight blue and gorge custom coatings did a great job, ended up being about 100 bucks including shipping both ways
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2014, 11:37:18 PM »
Gorge Custom Coatings is the way to go. It is my cousin's business. I just got another rifle back from them and it's amazing! Melisa who is doing the coating is one of the most artistic people I know and she can do about anything you can dream up. They have good prices and quick turn around compared to a lot of the bigger shops. You will be happy if you use them.
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2014, 12:26:38 AM »
Thanks for all the replies will definitely use them!  :)

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2014, 12:33:17 AM »
Anyone have contact information for them? If so that would be great!!

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2014, 12:35:23 AM »
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2014, 12:45:09 AM »
So does cerakote look the closest to a blued gun? Or does parkerizing?

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2014, 12:50:32 AM »
Cerakote is more of a textured finish.
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2014, 12:51:14 AM »
What do you mean if you don't mind me asking  :dunno:

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2014, 01:05:54 AM »
Blued is just steel that has been colored. Why the cerakote is a finish added on top of the steel.
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2014, 01:17:01 AM »
It would seem it would chip easily, rubbing against a tree or something out in the woods, No?

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2014, 01:24:35 AM »
It's a pretty tuff finish. I will be putting them to work this year.
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2014, 01:26:02 AM »
Cerakote is tough stuff! As soon as I get caught up on some bolt rifle projects , I'm going to have Gorge Custom do some AR stuff for me in Titanium and Burnt Bronze Cerakote. Actually a mix 60% Burnt Bronze & 40% Black. They said they could swing it, no problem.

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2014, 01:26:17 AM »
Sorry to ask all these questions, just trying to gather as much information as possible before I go and spend lots of money.

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2014, 01:29:00 AM »
No worries :tup:
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2014, 09:03:14 AM »
I went with midnight blue and it almost looks like bluing, I put it through its paces this year and it still looks brand new.
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2014, 09:18:20 AM »
So does cerakote look the closest to a blued gun? Or does parkerizing?

Parkerizing is a milspec coating that is applied to ferrous steel. It does not look like bluing, it's more like a rough grey or black depending on whether it's Zinc or Mag phosphate.

Cerakote a has a midnight blue that is very dark and glossy and looks a lot like traditional blueing.

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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2014, 07:14:39 PM »
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2014, 07:28:09 PM »
Is that where benchmark sends there barrels to get cerakoted? Gorge?
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Re: Bluing, Cerakote, and Parkerizing?
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2014, 01:17:25 AM »
I will definitely be using custom coatings, Thanks for all the replies!

 


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