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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #510 on: March 14, 2016, 08:01:41 PM »
Michelle can we maybe hook up so I can get my deer back? Please?

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #511 on: March 14, 2016, 08:21:22 PM »
Band,

I would be very interested in hearing your detailed account of the Services you received at my shop on 9/7/11. I remember it pretty clear.   

How you were unable to get it to Charlie because he was hunting his Nooksack Elk Tag.  How I got a Phone call requesting my services to cape out the Head on your Elk in your Avatar because you we in a bind.  NO PROBLEM, bring it right over I'll help you out.  Did Charlie have any complaints about the Cape or the job I did capping it out for him?  NOPE!  I even offered to show you step by step how to do it so that if you were ever in a bind again you could do it.  You showed very little interest in learning.  :dunno: You were walking around my shop and chatting. 

Another thing I remember was my offer to put your cape in my freezer.  You lived an hour plus away from Charlie.  I offered to hold your Cape in my freezer until Charlie got back from his hunt.  That I would deliver your cape to him personally the day he got back.  Before you left, you asked me what you owed me for doing all this for you.  Do you remember what I charged you?  Absolutly NOTHING!

The next day I drove over to Charlies Shop and delivered your cape.
Happy to oblige your request, especially since we need to set the record straight on your claims.  My business was with Charlie, NOT with you, and you did not bail ME out of a bind.  Per Charlie's standard business practice he had subcontracted with you for his customers to drop off their work to you in his absence for caping and freezer storage until his return.  Any favor you did was for him.  And I would have to assume that your business arrangement included reimbursement for any work, freezer storage, and delivery on your part.  If your efforts did not include compensation, that's on you, not me.  Now the record is straight.

As for your caping work, no complaints at all.  But that is not the point of my weighing in on this topic, is it?  The point is that even after I offered some excellent and sorely needed business advice to you (over 2 years ago) in this very topic, you still choose to ignore that advice and carry on with your despicably poor business practices to customer after customer time and again.  And then, when among the numerous complaints you find a small inaccuracy, you waste an inordinate amount of time providing more excuses and half truths to try to make it look like your customers are the problem.

Let me just finish with this thought:  had I brought my elk to you for the shoulder mount I doubt seriously that I would have it back by now and I would be among the many dissatisfied customers that you have.  But unlike so many others I would have taken you to court by now.  Hopefully some of these folks will finally decide to take that course so they can get their stuff back and move on with their lives.

You haven't set any records straight.  They were correct to begin with.  I am better aware of any agreement between Charlie and I than you are.  I am not Charlies "Shop Sitter" and he didn't "contract" with me to cape or store anything before he left on his hunt.  He has a wife that is fully capable of putting stuff in the freezer for him.  He also knows if he needs something short notice I'm here to help.  I have also only caped and stored one item for him.  That was your Bull.  Feel free to inquire with him. 

You were planning to take your Elk Cape with you when I put the offer on the table to hold and deliver it to him to help you out by not having to make another long trip back down to his shop to drop it off.   

If it was his responsibility to compensate me why did you ask how much you owed before leaving?

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #512 on: March 14, 2016, 08:25:39 PM »
Band,

I would be very interested in hearing your detailed account of the Services you received at my shop on 9/7/11. I remember it pretty clear.   

How you were unable to get it to Charlie because he was hunting his Nooksack Elk Tag.  How I got a Phone call requesting my services to cape out the Head on your Elk in your Avatar because you we in a bind.  NO PROBLEM, bring it right over I'll help you out.  Did Charlie have any complaints about the Cape or the job I did capping it out for him?  NOPE!  I even offered to show you step by step how to do it so that if you were ever in a bind again you could do it.  You showed very little interest in learning.  :dunno: You were walking around my shop and chatting. 

Another thing I remember was my offer to put your cape in my freezer.  You lived an hour plus away from Charlie.  I offered to hold your Cape in my freezer until Charlie got back from his hunt.  That I would deliver your cape to him personally the day he got back.  Before you left, you asked me what you owed me for doing all this for you.  Do you remember what I charged you?  Absolutly NOTHING!

The next day I drove over to Charlies Shop and delivered your cape.
Happy to oblige your request, especially since we need to set the record straight on your claims.  My business was with Charlie, NOT with you, and you did not bail ME out of a bind.  Per Charlie's standard business practice he had subcontracted with you for his customers to drop off their work to you in his absence for caping and freezer storage until his return.  Any favor you did was for him.  And I would have to assume that your business arrangement included reimbursement for any work, freezer storage, and delivery on your part.  If your efforts did not include compensation, that's on you, not me.  Now the record is straight.

As for your caping work, no complaints at all.  But that is not the point of my weighing in on this topic, is it?  The point is that even after I offered some excellent and sorely needed business advice to you (over 2 years ago) in this very topic, you still choose to ignore that advice and carry on with your despicably poor business practices to customer after customer time and again.  And then, when among the numerous complaints you find a small inaccuracy, you waste an inordinate amount of time providing more excuses and half truths to try to make it look like your customers are the problem.

Let me just finish with this thought:  had I brought my elk to you for the shoulder mount I doubt seriously that I would have it back by now and I would be among the many dissatisfied customers that you have.  But unlike so many others I would have taken you to court by now.  Hopefully some of these folks will finally decide to take that course so they can get their stuff back and move on with their lives.

You haven't set any records straight.  They were correct to begin with.  I am better aware of any agreement between Charlie and I than you are.  I am not Charlies "Shop Sitter" and he didn't "contract" with me to cape or store anything before he left on his hunt.  He has a wife that is fully capable of putting stuff in the freezer for him.  He also knows if he needs something short notice I'm here to help.  I have also only caped and stored one item for him.  That was your Bull.  Feel free to inquire with him. 

You were planning to take your Elk Cape with you when I put the offer on the table to hold and deliver it to him to help you out by not having to make another long trip back down to his shop to drop it off.   

If it was his responsibility to compensate me why did you ask how much you owed before leaving?

Stop playing wack a mole, you would be doing yourself an incredible favor.

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #513 on: March 14, 2016, 08:31:38 PM »
I'll let the folks reading this be the judge of how truthful you are.  As I told you back in 2014, credibility is extraordinarily important, particularly for a business owner.  You've shown you'll never "get" that.

Now, instead of wasting more time responding to me, spend a minute answering 180-GRAIN's request and give him his deer back.

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #514 on: March 14, 2016, 09:04:00 PM »
I'll let the folks reading this be the judge of how truthful you are.  As I told you back in 2014, credibility is extraordinarily important, particularly for a business owner.  You've shown you'll never "get" that.

Now, instead of wasting more time responding to me, spend a minute answering 180-GRAIN's request and give him his deer back.


Or my 2012 bear?  I am anxious to get it finished, its been 3 years and 4 months, with an original estimated completion of 18 months.  If it could be 100% completed within the next two months I would be willing to wait for it one last time.  If it going to be another 3 months, 6 months or longer I want to come pick it up and take it elsewhere to be completed. 

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #515 on: March 15, 2016, 09:37:10 AM »
Should we make a list of people waiting for an answer/update?

Then we can have them checked off as Michelle gets back to them...
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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #516 on: March 15, 2016, 09:49:03 AM »
This is getting beyond frustrating at this point. There is absolutely no denying she didn't see myself and atleast skagitsteel trying to get ahold of her on this post in itself. Let alone voicemails and facebook messages that I was told by other members on here she said she received. Its obvious to me she is dodging a couple of us for no reason other than she wants nothing to do with us or shes covering something up. My wife dam near has me talked into getting something started legally to get this situation handled, my patients have been worn pretty thin with this situation. I keep giving Michelle the benefit of the doubt because we have done good business in the past. I don't know how much longer I will be able to hold out before I reach the breaking point and move on this.

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #517 on: March 15, 2016, 11:52:19 AM »
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This is getting beyond frustrating at this point. There is absolutely no denying she didn't see myself and atleast skagitsteel trying to get ahold of her on this post in itself. Let alone voicemails and facebook messages that I was told by other members on here she said she received. Its obvious to me she is dodging a couple of us for no reason other than she wants nothing to do with us or shes covering something up. My wife dam near has me talked into getting something started legally to get this situation handled, my patients have been worn pretty thin with this situation. I keep giving Michelle the benefit of the doubt because we have done good business in the past. I don't know how much longer I will be able to hold out before I reach the breaking point and move on this.

There is a "hide" feature on Hunt Wa, so I quoted it to remove the chance that that is the case....
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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #518 on: March 15, 2016, 11:53:52 AM »
You want action, 180-GRAIN?  Provide a written complaint here with 99.5% factual data and a .5% exaggeration.  That will at least prompt her to spend a bunch of time writing a response blasting you for your inaccuracies (without addressing the actual complaint).  If you want anything more than that, I think you'll need to take her to court. :twocents: :bash:

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #519 on: March 15, 2016, 03:35:48 PM »
Before we get too nasty....

I'd love to allow this time and space for Michelle to address these things, come up to an agreement and settle up.  It's not like it's going away.  Hoping this is seen as a gift to move forward with everyone feeling a bit better (future customers included)
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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #520 on: March 16, 2016, 09:48:13 AM »
Just an update Michelle made contact with me last night on facebook and deemed the mount to be in the drying process and was not sure how long it would take to finish drying. I am assuming it should not be more than a week longer than  :dunno:. Any other taxidermists on here jump in on this question please...What is the longest time frame a mount you have done has taken to dry? Just curious thanks.

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #521 on: March 16, 2016, 09:51:17 AM »
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Just an update Michelle made contact with me last night on facebook


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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #522 on: March 16, 2016, 10:26:41 AM »
Before we get too nasty....

I'd love to allow this time and space for Michelle to address these things, come up to an agreement and settle up.  It's not like it's going away.  Hoping this is seen as a gift to move forward with everyone feeling a bit better (future customers included)

Thank you for being level headed. There's nothing I would rather see than for Michelle to make good with everyone and be able to build her business. I am an optimist and want to hope for the best for everyone involved.

Glad to hear she is communicating with 180-grain, I hope that communication occurs with everyone involved!  :tup:
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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #523 on: March 16, 2016, 10:33:57 AM »
Michelle E-mailed me yesterday so hoping things will work out she said she had done some work on the bison. She did;nt give me an estament on when it will be done but I will try to find out. Hoping things work out for me and everyone else.

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Re: Michelle Nelson rugging "Beware"
« Reply #524 on: March 16, 2016, 10:39:44 AM »
Progress!


Is there anyone one here that has still hasn't been able to contact her or that she hasn't contacted?
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