Is Jay Kehne Using his position to funnel Info to Conservation NW?

[AspenBud]

one problem with that plan Aspen - no cell coverage there


total dead zone

May be so, but that doesn't apply to GPS. I'm just saying if the law saw it as a real problem there are ways to narrow down the suspect list, especially if the person was sloppy in covering their tracks. Given the mountain of subpoenas and/or warrants they'd have to submit I'm betting they'll never find out who did it unless the person is truly stupid. One wolf is simply not worth the effort.

[KFhunter]

one problem with that plan Aspen - no cell coverage there


total dead zone

May be so, but that doesn't apply to GPS. I'm just saying if the law saw it as a real problem there are ways to narrow down the suspect list, especially if the person was sloppy in covering their tracks. Given the mountain of subpoenas and/or warrants they'd have to submit I'm betting they'll never find out who did it unless the person is truly stupid. One wolf is simply not worth the effort.

Thanks for that,  I was under the impression that my S3 wouldn't work without service.  So after you wrote that I checked it out and it seems the GPS does work, but what's happening is that without data service the map isn't working or updating your location so it's appearing the GPS isn't working.  I need to use an offline map,

Thanks Aspen!
There is some good after all from you being on HW   

[AspenBud]

one problem with that plan Aspen - no cell coverage there


total dead zone

May be so, but that doesn't apply to GPS. I'm just saying if the law saw it as a real problem there are ways to narrow down the suspect list, especially if the person was sloppy in covering their tracks. Given the mountain of subpoenas and/or warrants they'd have to submit I'm betting they'll never find out who did it unless the person is truly stupid. One wolf is simply not worth the effort.

Thanks for that,  I was under the impression that my S3 wouldn't work without service.  So after you wrote that I checked it out and it seems the GPS does work, but what's happening is that without data service the map isn't working or updating your location so it's appearing the GPS isn't working.  I need to use an offline map,

Thanks Aspen!
There is some good after all from you being on HW   

I was actually thinking of Garmin Nuvi's or any of the back country handhelds for sale out there, not to mention some PLB's like SPOT. I hadn't thought of phone GPS but that's another to consider. If you have OnStar in your car that's another and so is onboard GPS. I also wouldn't count on cell coverage, or a lack of it, to cover tracks. Just because your out of the coverage area doesn't mean the phone isn't talking.

Like I said, I really would be surprised if the law is that interested, but there's a lot of ways to narrow a suspect list in the electronic age if they want to bad enough.

[AspenBud]

Here's another good one, look for all ammo sales of the caliber used in the last six months within a certain range of the incident, see if a match can be made to a credit card, and then do something crazy like get a list of IP addresses hitting H-W (again, just because H-W doesn't collect that info doesn't mean the ISP's don't) and then see if any names match on the wolf forum. If you think that's not doable you got another thing coming.

Again, I think it's highly unlikely. But...

[Houndhunter]

I hope it was a cloudy day when said wolf was shot

[Sitka_Blacktail]

He is violating the operating principles of the commission that is clear.

What specific operating principle of the commission are you saying he is violating?

So far all I'm seeing is what ifs and innuendo.

I could make up a scenario that could make you look like a possible suspect in this wolf poaching incident but it would be intellectually dishonest, just like your case against Mr. Kehne.

[KFhunter]

one problem with that plan Aspen - no cell coverage there


total dead zone

May be so, but that doesn't apply to GPS. I'm just saying if the law saw it as a real problem there are ways to narrow down the suspect list, especially if the person was sloppy in covering their tracks. Given the mountain of subpoenas and/or warrants they'd have to submit I'm betting they'll never find out who did it unless the person is truly stupid. One wolf is simply not worth the effort.

Thanks for that,  I was under the impression that my S3 wouldn't work without service.  So after you wrote that I checked it out and it seems the GPS does work, but what's happening is that without data service the map isn't working or updating your location so it's appearing the GPS isn't working.  I need to use an offline map,

Thanks Aspen!
There is some good after all from you being on HW   

I was actually thinking of Garmin Nuvi's or any of the back country handhelds for sale out there, not to mention some PLB's like SPOT. I hadn't thought of phone GPS but that's another to consider. If you have OnStar in your car that's another and so is onboard GPS. I also wouldn't count on cell coverage, or a lack of it, to cover tracks. Just because your out of the coverage area doesn't mean the phone isn't talking.

Like I said, I really would be surprised if the law is that interested, but there's a lot of ways to narrow a suspect list in the electronic age if they want to bad enough.

Here's another good one, look for all ammo sales of the caliber used in the last six months within a certain range of the incident, see if a match can be made to a credit card, and then do something crazy like get a list of IP addresses hitting H-W (again, just because H-W doesn't collect that info doesn't mean the ISP's don't) and then see if any names match on the wolf forum. If you think that's not doable you got another thing coming.

Again, I think it's highly unlikely. But...

excellent advice Aspenbud.

make sure the GPS is left at home - check
no on start equipped vehicles - check
buy ammo with cash while wearing a hoodie - check
pull the battery out of any cell phones - check

You sure are a wolf zealot!
boy you'd just love to bag someone on HW huh, hang em by their nutsacks upside down with their hair dangling in an ant hill   

It must be painful for you to be here having to read and post among your enemies.

[KFhunter]

He is violating the operating principles of the commission that is clear.

What specific operating principle of the commission are you saying he is violating?

So far all I'm seeing is what ifs and innuendo.

I could make up a scenario that could make you look like a possible suspect in this wolf poaching incident but it would be intellectually dishonest, just like your case against Mr. Kehne.

You'd like to hang someone from HW too huh 

Gotta be painful for you as well to hang out rubbing elbows with your enemies.

[KFhunter]

Here's another good one, look for all ammo sales of the caliber used in the last six months within a certain range of the incident, see if a match can be made to a credit card, and then do something crazy like get a list of IP addresses hitting H-W (again, just because H-W doesn't collect that info doesn't mean the ISP's don't) and then see if any names match on the wolf forum. If you think that's not doable you got another thing coming.

Again, I think it's highly unlikely. But...

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[AspenBud]

Are you gonna cry kf?   

Heed my warning Einstein.

Carry on with your flailing.

[idahohuntr]

Are you gonna cry kf?   

Heed my warning Einstein.

Carry on with your flailing.

[KFhunter]

Are you gonna cry kf?   

Heed my warning Einstein.

Carry on with your flailing.

Why would I cry?  You humor me.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

He is violating the operating principles of the commission that is clear.

What are you saying he is violating?

So far all I'm seeing is what ifs and innuendo.

I could make up a scenario that could make you look like a possible suspect in this wolf poaching incident but it would be intellectually dishonest, just like your case against Mr. Kehne.

You'd like to hang someone from HW too huh 

Gotta be painful for you as well to hang out rubbing elbows with your enemies.

Not trying to hang anyone. But nice deflection.

Seriously, you didn't answer the question. What specific operating principle of the commission do you have proof of, that Jay Kehne violated?

[KFhunter]

click page two and read,  already been addressed.

[idahohuntr]

Already been addressed...right...   Just keep deflecting and changing the subject.

Fact is, there is nothing unethical or illegal about a commissioner sharing public information with a conservation organization.  End of discussion.  Furthermore, you don't even know that he (legally and ethically) shared information with CNW in the first place. 

Gosh, I wonder if one of the commissioners has shared any other wildlife related public information with other wildlife organizations...those outlaws!!!  Go get 'em KF...go file FOIA's demanding to know when WDFW commissioners are communicating public information to the public and then report back to us...run along now...we need our best and brightest to solve this crime of the century.