Stevens County Meeting - Regarding WDFW Authority

[CAMPMEAT]

Outside influence controls this state.......all the special interest groups ?The state has their back, while systematically turning their back on rural communities like ours.

Which is all the more reason I respect these rural politicians for taking a stand. I told my wife last night that if they continue to fight this (even if not successful) we may consider moving a 1/2 hour north to Stevens County.

You should anyhow. Become a rebel like the rest of us...........

[bearpaw]

If you can't see that the voters of Stevens County are being played like a fiddle on this issue you are beyond naive.  No county prosecutor or sheriff is going to "remove" wdfw from the county and they know it.  Not saying its not a great political move in a rural county...just that anybody who believes it can actually work is sadly mistaken and being taken for a ride by another politician.

Even if that's the case, how's that any different than politicians on the wet side taking us for a ride on their beloved wolves. At least these guys are acting on what the voters actually want. Anyone who can't see that is naive.

 

I just looked at Stevens county website and the Sheriff and Prosecutor are up for election in 2014.  So, its a good time to hold this mock public meeting and all the voters of Stevens County believe the good sheriff and prosecutor are actually going to get tough with WDFW...kick them out of the county, write their own wolf plan bla bla bla  

I suspect it will work as well for them as it did for Idaho's Governor Butch Otter, his campaign slogan was "I want to notch the first Idaho wolf tag."

Been a great governor too. He stopped the IDFG from prosecuting wolf poachers.

After Otter was elected for his Campaign slogan, he followed through with what the people wanted. He stopped F&G from investigating wolf shootings and then worked to make shooiting wolves legal. That is exactly what his constituency wanted and he continues to be re-elected. 

Glad to see our Stevens County elected officials are united. I serve on a county advisory board and I have attended many other functions where I have become acquainted with the elected officials, I know them all except for the prosecutor, from everything I have seen these officials are representing the people of Stevens County very well. People are fed up with the whole predator policy of WDFW (wolf, cougar, bear, coyote, etc) and unfair tickets given to residents by the Dept of Ecology. I give these officials high marks for their desire to serve the county. It's not their job to represent the interests of wolf supporters and enviro groups from out of the county. This is local representation as it should be, if nothing else, this will send a strong message to Olympia.

[turkeyfeather]

Outside influence controls this state.......all the special interest groups ?The state has their back, while systematically turning their back on rural communities like ours.

Which is all the more reason I respect these rural politicians for taking a stand. I told my wife last night that if they continue to fight this (even if not successful) we may consider moving a 1/2 hour north to Stevens County.

You should anyhow. Become a rebel like the rest of us...........

Believe me Camp, it's getting more tempting every day.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Stevens County Rebels!!!! We might have to relocate again?

[idahohuntr]

If you can't see that the voters of Stevens County are being played like a fiddle on this issue you are beyond naive.  No county prosecutor or sheriff is going to "remove" wdfw from the county and they know it.  Not saying its not a great political move in a rural county...just that anybody who believes it can actually work is sadly mistaken and being taken for a ride by another politician.

Even if that's the case, how's that any different than politicians on the wet side taking us for a ride on their beloved wolves. At least these guys are acting on what the voters actually want. Anyone who can't see that is naive.

Never said it was any different than any other politician in the west, in D.C. or anywhere else for that matter. 

[JLS]

If you can't see that the voters of Stevens County are being played like a fiddle on this issue you are beyond naive.  No county prosecutor or sheriff is going to "remove" wdfw from the county and they know it.  Not saying its not a great political move in a rural county...just that anybody who believes it can actually work is sadly mistaken and being taken for a ride by another politician.

Even if that's the case, how's that any different than politicians on the wet side taking us for a ride on their beloved wolves. At least these guys are acting on what the voters actually want. Anyone who can't see that is naive.

And I would guess the politicians on the wet side are acting on what they majority of their voters actually want.

Ironic how if it was a Democratic stunt, it would be labeled as grandstanding.  Since it's conservative Republican, it's taking a stand.

[turkeyfeather]

If you can't see that the voters of Stevens County are being played like a fiddle on this issue you are beyond naive.  No county prosecutor or sheriff is going to "remove" wdfw from the county and they know it.  Not saying its not a great political move in a rural county...just that anybody who believes it can actually work is sadly mistaken and being taken for a ride by another politician.

Even if that's the case, how's that any different than politicians on the wet side taking us for a ride on their beloved wolves. At least these guys are acting on what the voters actually want. Anyone who can't see that is naive.

And I would guess the politicians on the wet side are acting on what they majority of their voters actually want.

Ironic how if it was a Democratic stunt, it would be labeled as grandstanding.  Since it's conservative Republican, it's taking a stand.

Oh come on you can't actually think that. The wolf plan was discussed, put in place and crammed down out throats before most ever knew what was going on. This disapoints me JLS, based on your posts I have read in the past I always thought you were smarter than this.

[baldopepper]

Another David vs. Goliath issue for a rural county.  Keep in mind Washington's population is close to 7,000,000 and Stevens county's is 45,000.  Less than 1%.  It's important to keep in mind that to most state politicians the wolf issue is no issue and to the vast majority of the states population the wolf issue is no issue.  I hate to see small rural counties take on the state in lawsuit issues because tax negative counties like Stevens county (they pay considerably less into the state coffers than they take in) end up spending a lot more than they can afford and seem to usually loose.  PLEASE don't get me wrong, I admire what the county is standing up for and don't blame them (I have homes in both Pierce and Stevens county and my heart really is in Stevens county)  I just hope they proceed with caution when they threaten to arrest or throw out WDFW reps.-not saying they shouldn't stand up for what they believe in and what's best for the county-just saying a lot of blustering and threatening is maybe not the best way to go. I don't have any quick answers or solutions-I just hope cooler heads prevail.

[bearpaw]

And I would guess the politicians on the wet side are acting on what they majority of their voters actually want.

I agree and that's where the problem is. The westside politicians and wolf groups want all the predators here in E WA, when Representative Kretz offered legislation to transport wolves to the westside the westside legislators rejected having wolves in their county.

Another David vs. Goliath issue for a rural county.  Keep in mind Washington's population is close to 7,000,000 and Stevens county's is 45,000.  Less than 1%.  It's important to keep in mind that to most state politicians the wolf issue is no issue and to the vast majority of the states population the wolf issue is no issue.  I hate to see small rural counties take on the state in lawsuit issues because tax negative counties like Stevens county (they pay considerably less into the state coffers than they take in) end up spending a lot more than they can afford and seem to usually loose.  PLEASE don't get me wrong, I admire what the county is standing up for and don't blame them (I have homes in both Pierce and Stevens county and my heart really is in Stevens county)  I just hope they proceed with caution when they threaten to arrest or throw out WDFW reps.-not saying they shouldn't stand up for what they believe in and what's best for the county-just saying a lot of blustering and threatening is maybe not the best way to go. I don't have any quick answers or solutions-I just hope cooler heads prevail.

I think everyone in the county understands this. It will be interesting to see how and if they move forward.

[buckfvr]

Our cool heads seem to be an indication of weakness.  No means no.  When nearly the whole county ( even the whole tri-county ) is against an issue, and they forge full speed ahead without consequence, theres a communication gap............THEY are not listening.  WHats good for them may not be good for us, and thats why we need the power to manage regionally.   

[DOUBLELUNG]

Sorry I was unclear, I should have added "until I read your last post"

Bearpaw, I was going to say be careful what you wish for.  Anderson disappoints in many ways, but is a heck of an improvement over Koenings.

Please read my previous post. I said I thought Director Anderson was the best director in 20 to 30 or more years and that I feared a replacement would be worse.

[JLS]

If you can't see that the voters of Stevens County are being played like a fiddle on this issue you are beyond naive.  No county prosecutor or sheriff is going to "remove" wdfw from the county and they know it.  Not saying its not a great political move in a rural county...just that anybody who believes it can actually work is sadly mistaken and being taken for a ride by another politician.

Even if that's the case, how's that any different than politicians on the wet side taking us for a ride on their beloved wolves. At least these guys are acting on what the voters actually want. Anyone who can't see that is naive.

And I would guess the politicians on the wet side are acting on what they majority of their voters actually want.

Ironic how if it was a Democratic stunt, it would be labeled as grandstanding.  Since it's conservative Republican, it's taking a stand.

Oh come on you can't actually think that. The wolf plan was discussed, put in place and crammed down out throats before most ever knew what was going on. This disapoints me JLS, based on your posts I have read in the past I always thought you were smarter than this.

I seem to recall plenty of public comment.  Whether or not it was fully taken into consideration I don't know.  But I do believe that a very large percentage of voters on the left side of the state like wolves. 

Remember Sen. Ranker's little show over the aerial shooting of the Wedge pack?  There was probably a certain level of grandstanding involved there, but it's also highly likely that he was acting in the direct interests of his constituency.

[turkeyfeather]

If you can't see that the voters of Stevens County are being played like a fiddle on this issue you are beyond naive.  No county prosecutor or sheriff is going to "remove" wdfw from the county and they know it.  Not saying its not a great political move in a rural county...just that anybody who believes it can actually work is sadly mistaken and being taken for a ride by another politician.

Even if that's the case, how's that any different than politicians on the wet side taking us for a ride on their beloved wolves. At least these guys are acting on what the voters actually want. Anyone who can't see that is naive.

And I would guess the politicians on the wet side are acting on what they majority of their voters actually want.

Ironic how if it was a Democratic stunt, it would be labeled as grandstanding.  Since it's conservative Republican, it's taking a stand.

Oh come on you can't actually think that. The wolf plan was discussed, put in place and crammed down out throats before most ever knew what was going on. This disapoints me JLS, based on your posts I have read in the past I always thought you were smarter than this.

I seem to recall plenty of public comment.  Whether or not it was fully taken into consideration I don't know.  But I do believe that a very large percentage of voters on the left side of the state like wolves. 

Remember Sen. Ranker's little show over the aerial shooting of the Wedge pack?  There was probably a certain level of grandstanding involved there, but it's also highly likely that he was acting in the direct interests of his constituency.

Of course they do. They don't have to deal with them. Maybe there was alot of public comment time over there, but I don't recall much at all over here.

[JLS]

If you can't see that the voters of Stevens County are being played like a fiddle on this issue you are beyond naive.  No county prosecutor or sheriff is going to "remove" wdfw from the county and they know it.  Not saying its not a great political move in a rural county...just that anybody who believes it can actually work is sadly mistaken and being taken for a ride by another politician.

Even if that's the case, how's that any different than politicians on the wet side taking us for a ride on their beloved wolves. At least these guys are acting on what the voters actually want. Anyone who can't see that is naive.

And I would guess the politicians on the wet side are acting on what they majority of their voters actually want.

Ironic how if it was a Democratic stunt, it would be labeled as grandstanding.  Since it's conservative Republican, it's taking a stand.

Oh come on you can't actually think that. The wolf plan was discussed, put in place and crammed down out throats before most ever knew what was going on. This disapoints me JLS, based on your posts I have read in the past I always thought you were smarter than this.

I seem to recall plenty of public comment.  Whether or not it was fully taken into consideration I don't know.  But I do believe that a very large percentage of voters on the left side of the state like wolves. 

Remember Sen. Ranker's little show over the aerial shooting of the Wedge pack?  There was probably a certain level of grandstanding involved there, but it's also highly likely that he was acting in the direct interests of his constituency.

Of course they do. They don't have to deal with them. Maybe there was alot of public comment time over there, but I don't recall much at all over here.

I'm confused, what part of my statement were you disagreeing with?

[stevemiller]

I love it,its a wake up call.This rural community is standing up against the metro area.Only wish that the rest of rural WA. would follow suite.I really wish more investigations would be done to see what damage has been done,and laws are being broken by these groups all in the name of saving the wolf,the anti gun,the anti fishing,the anti mining,ETC.