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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2014, 08:52:26 PM »
Ok. Well regardless there is absolutely no way the tribe can restrict non-native anglers from fishing that river...

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2014, 08:56:07 PM »
I also read an article where the tribe out of Lapush was trying to trade land in the Clearwater and another river system to move part of their reservation because of tsunami danger.  I wish that I would have kept that article.  I don't really see how they could get away with that.   :dunno:

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2014, 08:56:13 PM »

Great feesh!  Congratulations! 
I mostly fish rivers where there is no native retention, except for one.  If I'm gonna bonk a nate I prefer to bonk a buck.  Since the Quinalts are raping the native fishery of hundreds of 20+ natives every year, I have no problem with a regular guy bonking his one nate per year.  These fish snobs who show their vitriol for others who legally take one native per year yet boast about how many 20+ nates that they release are actually killing far more than the few guys who keep one per year and only get to fish a couple of times.  The non tribal fisherman that are the problem are those who C&R dozens of natives per year.  No matter how careful they are, they are still killing a good percentage of what they release.  I would rather see some guy be proud and take home his one nate than some fish snob who is inadvertently killing a half dozen or more by thinking they are doing "the right thing".   :twocents:

By the way, don't post this on ifish!  Those Oregon steelhead elitists will crucify you!

Haha I was skimming and thought I was on ifish until I read this.

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2014, 08:57:14 PM »
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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #109 on: February 24, 2014, 09:00:40 PM »
I also read an article where the tribe out of Lapush was trying to trade land in the Clearwater and another river system to move part of their reservation because of tsunami danger.  I wish that I would have kept that article.  I don't really see how they could get away with that.   :dunno:

Yeah, that was the quileute tribe that was screaming that they were below the tsunami zone... They were granted park land just up the road from La push...

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #110 on: February 24, 2014, 09:10:24 PM »
Fire station is in too, I believe...

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #111 on: February 24, 2014, 09:46:16 PM »
Wow, note to self, don't post on HuntWa, especially pic's.

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #112 on: February 24, 2014, 09:48:59 PM »
Wow, note to self, don't post on HuntWa, especially pic's.
That's old news!
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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #113 on: February 24, 2014, 10:02:44 PM »
You are correct, I am assuming it has spawned before - I have always understood that steelies achieving that size have spawned multiple times.  If that is not the case, I'll stand corrected on that one point about this fish having already met its biological imperative.  If someone has some info to share about that, I'd appreciate it...

Most times the fish's size is directly linked to how long it was at sea, before reaching sexual maturity the first time... Ie 1-salt  2-salt 3-salt 4-salt

This has been proven by pit tag data...

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2014, 10:09:19 PM »
I'm not gonna bag on ya for bonkin a nate. BUT...if I were in your shoes, I would have taken a handful of pictures and measurements. Then slip her back in the river. Skin mounts don't last as long or look as good. But congrats on a beauty. I'm still chasing the 20 pound mark. Been close, but no cigar.

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #115 on: February 25, 2014, 01:18:42 AM »
There is talk about shutting the Clearwater (WA) down to all non tribal fisherman.  That is an all native river.  The tribes net the living crap out of it.
A half dozen hatchery fish came out of it last weekend.

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #116 on: February 25, 2014, 02:40:44 AM »
This is one of the greatest myths about how big fish come into existence.  The biological imperative of every fish is satisfied on its first successful spawn.  Anything after that is gravy.  How many times has this fish spawned?  3,4,5 times? 

Few steelhead survive for repeated spawning trips. Fish making it back to the salt don't put on much weight because their bodies are focused on recovering and not growing. Making it up the river, spawning, then going back out is hard on their bodies.

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2014, 02:53:07 AM »
Funny that so many on here claim the WDFW is screwing up EVERYTHING, including our steelhead fisheries. But in this thread, people are saying it's fine to whack a native because WDFW says it's ok.
So I guess the state has mismanaged every other steelhead fishery we have, but they're getting it right when they say the OP steelhead runs are healthy enough for sports harvest.

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2014, 05:03:53 AM »
Nice fish!  I still have not broke the 20 lb mark...  Now days I'd throw a Nate back.  Not sure how much that helps, with all the netting, tribal and offshore commercial.....  Not only targeting these fish, but also the ocean food sources for the salmonids....   Too many people on a limited food source.

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Re: Fishing for Native Steelhead
« Reply #119 on: February 25, 2014, 05:33:33 AM »
Is Gary S. reading this? Wassup dog?
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