Expandable Broadheads

[lostbackpacker]

What I used in the past were Muzzy 100 gr, 3 blade.  Never had a problem with them at all.  As I get back into archery from a 6 year hiatus I am just looking to better setup. 

[Russ McDonald]

I see no benefit in them.  They lack penetration over a good sharp fixed blade.  They also have the a chance of failure to open.

Your still working on old school thought.  Expandables have evolved so much that they are almost better than fixed broadheads.

If they've evolved so much that they're almost better than fixed blades, then why would you use them in a "hear beat"??   Personally I wouldn't use something that is almost as good if they weren't better and the prices were the same.  Seems silly to me.

Hear beat?  Must be heart beat.     In my opinion they are better the fixed broadheads and I would us them in a heart beat if legal here in this state.  I have used them in California but never had a chance at an animal that. 

[coachcw]

They are wicked deadly and fly true , can't figure out why not legalize them ? I watched tom Miranda Stick a brown bear with a rage two blade, wicked blood trail and he didn't go far. If it works on a grizz it will sure as hell work on a elk .

[D-Rock425]

I see no benefit in them.  They lack penetration over a good sharp fixed blade.  They also have the a chance of failure to open.

You have experience with them and their lack of penetration? I Have seen first hand what the Rage does to deer
        

I have no doubt that they'll kill deer.  It takes away from the arrows energy when the head hits and has to open.

[lostbackpacker]

I see no benefit in them.  They lack penetration over a good sharp fixed blade.  They also have the a chance of failure to open.

You have experience with them and their lack of penetration? I Have seen first hand what the Rage does to deer
        

I have no doubt that they'll kill deer.  It takes away from the arrows energy when the head hits and has to open.

I agree it would take ke away upon deployment.  a fixed broadhead will lose some during flight...so they prob cancel each other out. 

[Russ McDonald]

Why would almost every pro out there be using some sort of mechanical broadhead if they didn't work?    I believe that there are very few states left that don't allow them.  Even California allows them.  Come on Washington!!!!
My aunt and uncle have killed elk with them.  Even quartering shots.

[D-Rock425]

I'm not against them being legal I just won't use them.  You guys want to use them go ahead don't matter to me.

[pianoman9701]

Even California allows them.

That's enough for me. Lifetime ban!

[Russ McDonald]

 

I'm not against them being legal I just won't use them.  You guys want to use them go ahead don't matter to me.

[bullfisher]

Its an old law written when the early expandables were unreliable. Early designs were weak and only forward opening. They required up to 30% of a leagal arrows energy to open, and had the tip reccest to far towards the bades causing them to cartwheel on quartering shots. Todays mechs are much better but still not on par with a good fixed blade. That being said I've seen plenty of fixed blades that are crap and only designed to seperate you from your wallet. State law says a 40# bow and a 300grn arrow is the minimum requirement and you won't see mechs here until that changes. Plus this is washington, land of big roosevelt elk, blacktail and mulies not german sheperd sized whitetail. The state wants you to build an arrow for when everything goes wrong, not for when everything goes right!

[turkeyfeather]

I'd certainly like to give them a try before making a judgement.

[lostbackpacker]

Its an old law written when the early expandables were unreliable. Early designs were weak and only forward opening. They required up to 30% of a leagal arrows energy to open, and had the tip reccest to far towards the bades causing them to cartwheel on quartering shots. Todays mechs are much better but still not on par with a good fixed blade. That being said I've seen plenty of fixed blades that are crap and only designed to seperate you from your wallet. State law says a 40# bow and a 300grn arrow is the minimum requirement and you won't see mechs here until that changes. Plus this is washington, land of big roosevelt elk, blacktail and mulies not german sheperd sized whitetail. The state wants you to build an arrow for when everything goes wrong, not for when everything goes right!

Great answer.....thanks

[bhawley76]

Besides they work great for the guys that like to take 200 facing away shots.  

[turkeyfeather]

Besides they work great for the guys that like to take 200 facing away shots.  

Stop it. 

[vandeman17]

haven't you seen the commercials where they can pass through plywood at a steep angle? They should improve my shooting skills and effective distance by at least half.