Just saw SB 5956 passed

[PNW_Hunter]

I've got a *delete* that is always handy when I'm in the house. I hope I never have to use it!

You might not want to post that online. That's a short barreled shotgun, and will land you in hot water with the ATF. $250,000 and 10 years, doesn't sound worth that 1" shorter to me.

Not to be nit picky, but its 18" for shotguns so he would be 3 inches too short . No clue why someone would post that on a public forum though.

If you look at your 10 key number pad on the right of your keyboard, you'll see that the 8 is just above the 5.  I'm sure he was trying to type 18" and instead, accidentally hit the 5

Yes, but that explanation isn't nearly as dramatic..

Wasn't trying to be dramatic or anything  should have noticed that!

[jay.sharkbait]

I've got a *delete* that is always handy when I'm in the house. I hope I never have to use it!

You might not want to post that online. That's a short barreled shotgun, and will land you in hot water with the ATF. $250,000 and 10 years, doesn't sound worth that 1" shorter to me.

Not to be nit picky, but its 18" for shotguns so he would be 3 inches too short . No clue why someone would post that on a public forum though.

If you look at your 10 key number pad on the right of your keyboard, you'll see that the 8 is just above the 5.  I'm sure he was trying to type 18" and instead, accidentally hit the 5

Yes, but that explanation isn't nearly as dramatic..

Wasn't trying to be dramatic or anything  should have noticed that!

Sorry, comment wasn't meant for or towards anyone in particular.

[bigtex]

I'm not sure if this will really change anything, the feds have a 16" minimum barrel length for rifles don't they?

All the bill did was align WA law with federal law

[jackelope]

I think this will be my next move with one of my Encores.
18" barrel with a folder.
 
Awesome backpack rifle assuming it shoots.

[mulehunter]

I think this will be my next move with one of my Encores.
18" barrel with a folder.
 
Awesome backpack rifle assuming it shoots.

Single Bullet 308?  I might want one...   

[Elliott]

So this just crossed my mind, A glock stock. Put a stock on a block 17 or 21 or whatever and you have an sbr right? My question would be, what would the NFA tax stamp cover, the stock or the pistol, or both? Could I use the one stock on multiple pistols or would it be assigned to just the one that I registered. I guess we will find out soon enough!

[jay.sharkbait]

So this just crossed my mind, A glock stock. Put a stock on a block 17 or 21 or whatever and you have an sbr right? My question would be, what would the NFA tax stamp cover, the stock or the pistol, or both? Could I use the one stock on multiple pistols or would it be assigned to just the one that I registered. I guess we will find out soon enough!

It would cover the frame of the pistol.

[PNW_Hunter]

So this just crossed my mind, A glock stock. Put a stock on a block 17 or 21 or whatever and you have an sbr right? My question would be, what would the NFA tax stamp cover, the stock or the pistol, or both? Could I use the one stock on multiple pistols or would it be assigned to just the one that I registered. I guess we will find out soon enough!

It would cover the frame of the pistol.

Agreed. Just like how you can get a stripped lower SBRd without having a stock for it. Thus, stocks are completely interchangeable. Applies to the glock pistol as well

[bearpaw]

I think this will be my next move with one of my Encores.
18" barrel with a folder.
 
Awesome backpack rifle assuming it shoots.

I'm working toward a very similar setup myself! 

[TwoSixFourWins]

The AOW and SBR are only a 5 dollar tax stamp where full auto (where legal), suppressors, sawed off shotguns ( production shotguns that are normal length then shortened beyond 18"), and destructive devices are all $200 tax stamp.  The super shorty shotguns are considered AOW by the ATF so they are only a $5 stamp. There is a lot of paperwork and waiting not matter what when it comes to any NFA item.

[fly-by]

I think this will be my next move with one of my Encores.
18" barrel with a folder.
 
Awesome backpack rifle assuming it shoots.

Does anyone know if Encores are designated as either rifle or pistol from the factory?  I think this rig would already be WA legal if it started out like as a rifle since the barrel is over the minimum and folding stocks on a rifle (but not pistol) are ok. 

[pd]

I don't get it.  What is the allure of a short barreled rifle?

I understand the point about "I just want to have the same rights as residents in other states."  No problem with that logic.

I also understand the Alaskan trapper's use of a short barreled shotgun for bear defense--although this bill doesn't seem to help in that instance. 

I am not trying to be difficult, but I just don't know why I would want a short barreled rifle.  (The Good Lord knows I already have enough of the regular variety, so don't think I am opposed to rifle ownership )  Would somebody be kind enough to explain to me why this bill is really relevant?

[PNW_Hunter]

I don't get it.  What is the allure of a short barreled rifle?

I understand the point about "I just want to have the same rights as residents in other states."  No problem with that logic.

I also understand the Alaskan trapper's use of a short barreled shotgun for bear defense--although this bill doesn't seem to help in that instance. 

I am not trying to be difficult, but I just don't know why I would want a short barreled rifle.  (The Good Lord knows I already have enough of the regular variety, so don't think I am opposed to rifle ownership )  Would somebody be kind enough to explain to me why this bill is really relevant?

This bill is relevant for various reasons:

1) SBR's are fun!

2) You can now fire .300 blackout suppressed from a 8-10" barrel

3) The bill aligns WA state law with Federal law in regards to SBRs, and removes the ban on them.

4) Although they are not going to be for everyone, everyone should have the legal right to be able to purchase them by following proper procedures to comply with federal law

TONS more, but those 4 are a start.

Also, SB 5956 passing, along with suppressors a while ago, may provide some momentum to getting SBS's legalized as well as full auto, so WA state residents can own all 6 NFA item types.

Anytime you can not only escape a legislative session without getting any rights taken away, but rather expand gun ownership rights, is a great thing.

Time to defeat the background check initiative in November.

[pd]

I don't get it.  What is the allure of a short barreled rifle?

I understand the point about "I just want to have the same rights as residents in other states."  No problem with that logic.

I also understand the Alaskan trapper's use of a short barreled shotgun for bear defense--although this bill doesn't seem to help in that instance. 

I am not trying to be difficult, but I just don't know why I would want a short barreled rifle.  (The Good Lord knows I already have enough of the regular variety, so don't think I am opposed to rifle ownership )  Would somebody be kind enough to explain to me why this bill is really relevant?

This bill is relevant for various reasons:

1) SBR's are fun!

2) You can now fire .300 blackout suppressed from a 8-10" barrel

3) The bill aligns WA state law with Federal law in regards to SBRs, and removes the ban on them.

4) Although they are not going to be for everyone, everyone should have the legal right to be able to purchase them by following proper procedures to comply with federal law

TONS more, but those 4 are a start.

Also, SB 5956 passing, along with suppressors a while ago, may provide some momentum to getting SBS's legalized as well as full auto, so WA state residents can own all 6 NFA item types.

Anytime you can not only escape a legislative session without getting any rights taken away, but rather expand gun ownership rights, is a great thing.

Time to defeat the background check initiative in November.

Thanks, Hunter.

I guess I need to learn more about NFAs, and why SBRs were prohibited in Washington in the first place.  I have seen some passionate remarks on this and other sites about this bill, so it clearly touched a nerve with some.

[FALFire]

I'm pretty certain that Gov. Inslee has not yet signed the bill so for now it has not become law. Still waiting for it to cross his desk, maybe today....