NRA thanks Washington State Legislators for SB 5956

[bearpaw]

Washington: Pro-Gun Legislation Goes to Governor for Signature

Posted on March 10, 2014

On Friday, March 7, Senate Bill 5956 passed in the Washington House of Representatives by a 95 to 3 vote.  Sponsored by state Senators Brian Hatfield (D-19), Tim Sheldon (D-35) and John Braun (R-20), SB 5956 would make legal the possession, acquisition or transfer of a legally registered short-barreled rifle in the state of Washington.  Since it passed unanimously in the Washington Senate on February 18, Senate Bill 5956 now goes to Governor Jay Inslee (D) and awaits his signature.

Special thanks to Senator Hatfield for sponsoring this pro-gun legislation, and to all state legislators who voted for SB 5956. Also, thank you to state Representative Brian Blake (D-19) for cosponsoring the House companion bill and the critical role he played in ushering SB 5956 through the state House.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/3/washington-pro-gun-legislation-goes-to-governor-for-signature.aspx

[huntrights]

[WoodlandShooter]

hmmm so, how hard would it be to re-register/Designate a curreltly owned lower receiver as a SBR?

[sakoshooter]

Good for us.

[EscapeFrom206]

Does anyone know when the bill (once signed by Inslee) would go into effect?  Is this something that anyone can submit the paperwork for, or would you have to go through a Class 3 dealer?

Very happy about this news.  As much as I hate the $200 stamp, it will save me having to pin my suppressor to the barrel.

[blackdog]

Signed by the Governor today and will be law July 1st I believe.

[sooperfly]

The bill will become law on June 12, 2014.

[huntrights]

Excellent!   

[blackdog]

Next up short barreled shotguns and/or selective fire. Selective fire is complicated and difficult, short barreled shotguns is just difficult.

[sooperfly]

  Is this something that anyone can submit the paperwork for, or would you have to go through a Class 3 dealer?

You can do the paperwork yourself, you would use the "form 1".  You'd be the manufacturer, weapon would need to be engraved with the required info, $200 tax stamp, etc.  Some great tutorials online, maybe we'll have to link the information and combine it in a sticky or something. 

[Dave Workman]

hmmm so, how hard would it be to re-register/Designate a curreltly owned lower receiver as a SBR?

Nope, sorry, no good

You cannot build your own. 

[blackdog]

Dave is probably correct, for whatever reason we missed the word manufacture when drafting the bill.   

[EscapeFrom206]

I assume this rumor is floating around because section 1 specifically mentions manufacturing and section 2 does not.  As I understand it, the federal law is that you can legally manufacture any firearm that you’re legally allowed to own, so long as it’s not for resale or distribution.  If you really want to do some legal jiu-jitsu…

It is not unlawful for a person to possess, transport, acquire, or transfer a short-barreled rifle that is legally registered and possessed, transported, acquired, or transferred in accordance with federal law.

Acquired by manufacturing yourself, which is in accordance with federal law.

Or maybe it was just a massive oversight by whoever wrote the bill.

[blackdog]

We are asking how this will be interpeted.

[geodoc]

Okay, I've been thinking about the "manufacture" part of the bill, and being unfamiliar with the BATFE regs, rules, and law, maybe somebody can enlighten me.  If I wish to build a SBR, can I fill out the ATF form, and once approved, go to a state that allows one to build SBRs and construct it there, then bring it back to Washington?  Not looking to break the law, just checking to see if this might be a legal workaround.

[blackdog]

It seems to me that with the AR 15 plarform we are talking about assembling a SBR and not manufacturing one. Not sure if that makes a difference.

[EscapeFrom206]

Officially signed by Inslee.  Goes into effect 6/12/2014.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=5956

Would be nice if we could start the paperwork now and get a jump on things, but I'm guessing that's not possible...

[EscapeFrom206]

Spoke with a Class 3 dealer who was informed directly by the ATF that they are interpreting the law as it being illegal to build/assembly/manufacture a SBR in Washington state.  You can purchase one from an out-of-state vendor/manufacturer.  So don't bother sending in those Form 1's tomorrow.

Whether this was an oversight or an intentional bit of red tape by the bill authors trying to placate both sides.... who knows?

Also, you cannot legally allow friends or family to shoot it, unless it was registered under a Trust, and those peoples' names are also listed in the Trust.  I'm sure some police officers would be more lenient about this than others.

[dreamunelk]

Much easier to reword a law for clarification of intent that create a new one.  my bet if any problems they will fix it.


Also remember Blake is up for election again and since he had the back bone to cosponsor I am definitely giving him serious thought for my vote.

[bearpaw]

Much easier to reword a law for clarification of intent that create a new one.  my bet if any problems they will fix it.


Also remember Blake is up for election again and since he had the back bone to cosponsor I am definitely giving him serious thought for my vote.

I don't think you could find a better advocate for gun owners and hunters. 

[lamrith]

Also, you cannot legally allow friends or family to shoot it, unless it was registered under a Trust, and those peoples' names are also listed in the Trust.  I'm sure some police officers would be more lenient about this than others.

Unless it s different than suppressor this is not true.  You cannot loan the weapon out, but Letting someone shoot it under your supervision is not an issue.  Otherwise lot of people at SHOT show would have been arrested.  sbr and family weapons we available openly during range days...

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[sooperfly]

hmmm so, how hard would it be to re-register/Designate a curreltly owned lower receiver as a SBR?

Nope, sorry, no good

You cannot build your own.

Dave, you are incorrect.  This person has filed a form 1 to do their own, and it's been approved.  He has attached a copy of his approved form 1. 

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_15/564148_Are_Form_1s_being_approved_for_WA__Yes__How_do_I_know__I_just_got_one_back_.html

[bearpaw]

Also, you cannot legally allow friends or family to shoot it, unless it was registered under a Trust, and those peoples' names are also listed in the Trust.  I'm sure some police officers would be more lenient about this than others.

Unless it s different than suppressor this is not true.  You cannot loan the weapon out, but Letting someone shoot it under your supervision is not an issue.  Otherwise lot of people at SHOT show would have been arrested.  sbr and family weapons we available openly during range days...

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There's a place in northern Utah where you can go in and shoot all kinds of different fully automatic weapons, apparently legal because you are under their supervision and they must have a license. 

[lamrith]

Also, you cannot legally allow friends or family to shoot it, unless it was registered under a Trust, and those peoples' names are also listed in the Trust.  I'm sure some police officers would be more lenient about this than others.

Unless it s different than suppressor this is not true.  You cannot loan the weapon out, but Letting someone shoot it under your supervision is not an issue.  Otherwise lot of people at SHOT show would have been arrested.  sbr and family weapons we available openly during range days...

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There's a place in northern Utah where you can go in and shoot all kinds of different fully automatic weapons, apparently legal because you are under their supervision and they must have a license. 

Bearpaw - you and I are in agreement, I was correcting Escapes comment.

You can let others shoot it as long as under the Licensee's supervision.  You cannot give it to your buddy to shoot for the weekend while you are not there...

[csaaphill]

good I suppose but register i have issues with but ok i guess.

[blackdog]

If the State sponsors could eliminate registration they would have. We need a Congress that will repeal the 1934 NFA.

[csaaphill]

If the State sponsors could eliminate registration they would have. We need a Congress that will repeal the 1934 NFA.

that id like to see but prolly wont anytime soon!