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Author Topic: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI  (Read 260655 times)

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READ THE BOOK GUYS, if you do you will be all over this.  Not that the book is the only reason. Good job so far :tup:
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Signed... WDFG is the bullies of L/E...   Ive purchased my Deer, Elk, Bear Cougar combo and all my special permit's every year since 92' and how the WDFG treat people i never want to spend another dime in this state that goes to them.... Montana and Idaho will get my money from now on....  :twocents:     Clean house from the top down....
Their going down!!!

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signed and forwarded to get more signatures hopefully.
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READ THE BOOK GUYS, if you do you will be all over this.  Not that the book is the only reason. Good job so far :tup:
:yeah: :yeah: it will open your eyes guys, i knew there was alot of poaching but not even close to whats actually going on, holy crap. to top it all off the upper echelon, the guys behind the desk that are IN-CHARGE dont even give a rip, yet they want the kudos when a bust is actually made, there is no place in the WDFW for *censored*s like that  :tup: it seems are fish and game are a joke to them....
my grandpa always said "if it aint broke dont fix it"

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Signed and shared. I was shocked to see some current and former employees on the list especially the ones that are getting close to retirement.

When I started the petition, I sent out an email to many of the present officers, who are my friends, and told them about it.  I also warned them to strongly consider not signing it, but rather to have their friends and families sign instead, because of the very real fear of retaliation if this fails to make changes.  Many of them signed anyway, and several have told me "it's time to stand up against what is happening".  I admire them even more, but sure hope I am not digging them a hole.  This better work, or I think there will be hell to pay.

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READ THE BOOK GUYS, if you do you will be all over this.  Not that the book is the only reason. Good job so far :tup:
:yeah: :yeah: it will open your eyes guys, i knew there was alot of poaching but not even close to whats actually going on, holy crap. to top it all off the upper echelon, the guys behind the desk that are IN-CHARGE dont even give a rip, yet they want the kudos when a bust is actually made, there is no place in the WDFW for *censored*s like that  :tup: it seems are fish and game are a joke to them....

I have said this, on this forum before, but when I retired at the end of 2012 I made two predictions:  One; that I wouldn't miss WDFW but I would miss some of the people I worked with, and second; that the enforcement program couldn't get any worse than it was at that moment.

I was correct on prediction #1, but way off on #2......it got way worse.  Now is my opportunity to help all sportsmen out, as well as those fine officers I left behind.  Hopefully, this works and game wardens can get back to game warden work!

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Signed and shared. I was shocked to see some current and former employees on the list especially the ones that are getting close to retirement.

When I started the petition, I sent out an email to many of the present officers, who are my friends, and told them about it.  I also warned them to strongly consider not signing it, but rather to have their friends and families sign instead, because of the very real fear of retaliation if this fails to make changes.  Many of them signed anyway, and several have told me "it's time to stand up against what is happening".  I admire them even more, but sure hope I am not digging them a hole.  This better work, or I think there will be hell to pay.
i know you know this but tell them to document, in this day and age the public doesnt take to kindly to retaliation, and it doesnt matter what business it is, it is highly frowned upon, document document......it can save their jobs until retirement if nothing else  :tup:
my grandpa always said "if it aint broke dont fix it"

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Signed and shared. I was shocked to see some current and former employees on the list especially the ones that are getting close to retirement.

When I started the petition, I sent out an email to many of the present officers, who are my friends, and told them about it.  I also warned them to strongly consider not signing it, but rather to have their friends and families sign instead, because of the very real fear of retaliation if this fails to make changes.  Many of them signed anyway, and several have told me "it's time to stand up against what is happening".  I admire them even more, but sure hope I am not digging them a hole.  This better work, or I think there will be hell to pay.
That is awsome of them to stick their neck out for you and for change!! I've been at my job for 23 years, my supervisor is a complete micro managing boutch.  No one wants to work for him and if something like this was going on at my work, I'd sign the damn thing.  Somethings are worth fighting for, I sure hope nothing happens to them but if it does I would hope they could sue the crap out of wdfw!
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Signed and shared. I was shocked to see some current and former employees on the list especially the ones that are getting close to retirement.

When I started the petition, I sent out an email to many of the present officers, who are my friends, and told them about it.  I also warned them to strongly consider not signing it, but rather to have their friends and families sign instead, because of the very real fear of retaliation if this fails to make changes.  Many of them signed anyway, and several have told me "it's time to stand up against what is happening".  I admire them even more, but sure hope I am not digging them a hole.  This better work, or I think there will be hell to pay.
i know you know this but tell them to document, in this day and age the public doesnt take to kindly to retaliation, and it doesnt matter what business it is, it is highly frowned upon, document document......it can save their jobs until retirement if nothing else  :tup:

They do know, but you have to understand; this is a run-away train right now, with absolutely nobody being held accountable.

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Signed and shared. I was shocked to see some current and former employees on the list especially the ones that are getting close to retirement.

When I started the petition, I sent out an email to many of the present officers, who are my friends, and told them about it.  I also warned them to strongly consider not signing it, but rather to have their friends and families sign instead, because of the very real fear of retaliation if this fails to make changes.  Many of them signed anyway, and several have told me "it's time to stand up against what is happening".  I admire them even more, but sure hope I am not digging them a hole.  This better work, or I think there will be hell to pay.
That is awsome of them to stick their neck out for you and for change!! I've been at my job for 23 years, my supervisor is a complete micro managing boutch.  No one wants to work for him and if something like this was going on at my work, I'd sign the damn thing.  Somethings are worth fighting for, I sure hope nothing happens to them but if it does I would hope they could sue the crap out of wdfw!

I think it was Lincoln who said something to the effect of; "Evil thrives where when good men fail to act".  You are now seeing good men (and women) standing up for you, themselves and each other.

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I signed.  I once really wanted to be a game warden in this state but that is probably never going to happen now.  Oh well, you have to stand for what's right regardless of the consequences.  If I decide to go that route in the future,  I'll be looking into Montana FWP unless this state has a change of heart.

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I signed.  I once really wanted to be a game warden in this state but that is probably never going to happen now.  Oh well, you have to stand for what's right regardless of the consequences.  If I decide to go that route in the future,  I'll be looking into Montana FWP unless this state has a change of heart.

Don't give up yet, it is still a great state with great people.  We just need some severe changes, but all states have problems.  If we can fix this one, things should get way better.  My first 20 to 25 years with WDFW were awesome, and I wouldn't have considered any other job.  But then along came the dark ages we are going through now.

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Just a question, why us Hobbs not included with this group? It seems (and I say that as an outsider) his affiliations are with Crown and Cenci. Has he spoke out against the latest disciplinary actions?

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Just a question, why us Hobbs not included with this group? It seems (and I say that as an outsider) his affiliations are with Crown and Cenci. Has he spoke out against the latest disciplinary actions?

I have been asked that by a couple of our employees.  First of all, maybe I am naïve but I believe that deep down he is a good guy, just over-shadowed by the bad guys he works for.  Secondly; he did a pretty fair job at keeping Cenci off my back during Operation Cody, which allowed it to run as long as it did.  And last; if we get rid of Crown and Cenci, I am not sure he will have a place in Olympia anyway with whomever takes over.

 


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