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Author Topic: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI  (Read 260481 times)

Offline HntnFsh

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Wacenturian,
Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it. Sounds like your reinforcing what ucwarden and some others have had to say. Gotta be sad for you guys to see the direction WDFW has gone!

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has anyone else gotten any spamming emails from this change website? im getting emails to sign other things that i dont know anything about?  :dunno:

Yes, quite a few in the past couple days.  There was probably a tiny box I was supposed to either check, or uncheck, hidden somewhere...
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bump for hopefully some more signatures, anyone know what the number is up to now? i had taken a binder with 20 pages worth of petitions to be signed to BIG Js in orting, i thought i would hit the jackpot of signatures there, well the owner called me yesterday and told me to come pick it up, and that they dont want to display it there  :dunno: kinda sucks if you ask me, its a sporting goods store, for the sportsman. is it illegal for a sporting goods store to display a petition? kinda depressing, i have done alot of shopping there over the years, even before it was BIG Js, well the short of it is, i wont be shopping there anymore, i know one person doesnt make a differance in their income but i dont care, i would rather go to the sportsmans wharehouse anyways, more guns and all around more toys for men  :chuckle: :tup:

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has anyone else gotten any spamming emails from this change website? im getting emails to sign other things that i dont know anything about?  :dunno:

Yes, quite a few in the past couple days.  There was probably a tiny box I was supposed to either check, or uncheck, hidden somewhere...

When you get an email scroll to the bottom and click unsubscribe
" I have hunted almost every day of my life, the rest have been wasted"

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has anyone else gotten any spamming emails from this change website? im getting emails to sign other things that i dont know anything about?  :dunno:

Yes, quite a few in the past couple days.  There was probably a tiny box I was supposed to either check, or uncheck, hidden somewhere...

When you get an email scroll to the bottom and click unsubscribe

Keep meaning to do that but end up hitting delete lol
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has anyone else gotten any spamming emails from this change website? im getting emails to sign other things that i dont know anything about?  :dunno:

Yes, quite a few in the past couple days.  There was probably a tiny box I was supposed to either check, or uncheck, hidden somewhere...

When you get an email scroll to the bottom and click unsubscribe

10-4  :tup:
-Matt

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I have been keeping an eye on this because I am not technically a resident, but since that doesn't matter I figured I would jump on it.  99% of the info that I have makes me sick.  Another thing that I have noticed lately is the fact that once the poachers do get busted, the penalties that get levied really mean nothing.  Poachers don't care about the privilege to hunt, they kill anyways.  If they made it an automatic felony and took away the firearms that might actually make a difference.  And as far as the tribal hunting who actually controls the off reservation hunting privileges (rights for Native Americans).  I think that there should be a total revamping and this is a great start.  Thank you UC and all game/fish officers for your service.  I don't think game officers get due credit since they are always dealing with an armed person, most of the time with little or no backup.

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I've gotten a few messages with positive comments regarding Director Anderson. Comments that he is taking the dept in a more positive direction than any if the past directors. Other comments saying the dept is a little lopsided in favor of fisheries, but getting better.   Other comments saying he's the best director the dept has had in a few decades. I haven't been in this state for very long compared to the rest of you guys and don't really have a solid opinion on this. Thoughts??

From a 30 year retired WDFW employee myself, that is a complete falsehood.  Although there were problems before merger in both old Dept. of Wildlife and Dept. of Fisheries in 1993, it has gone downhill ever since.  Fisheries even back before merger was more commercially oriented in their policy.  Consider for a moment that old Wildlife had approximately 600 employees tops.  Fisheries had close to 1000, plus or minus (don't remember the exact number).  Add into the equation the focus on salmon restoration over the past 20 years and essentially wildlife gets left in the dust.

One only has to look at the previous policy choices driven by salmon issues.  First a Director chosen from Alaska in 1999, who was probably the worst Director the Dept ever had in my opinion (as well as many others in WDFW then), and a subsequent hire by the Commission of his chosen assistant when he left.  I could shed some additional light based on my opinion, but for now I'll just leave it at that.  Don't get me wrong, salmon should be a priority, but so should many other things.   

I also agree with one of the above statements...The Commission is a joke.  Nothing but a politically accommodating body who puts what appears to be, an acceptable stamp of approval on something of policy or regulation.  Just like lesser entities of the agency's Game Management Council and other policy groups.  In reality it is just another storefront to manipulate the public.

The comment from the President of the Puget Sound Anglers, to me, is coming more from a perspective of his position actually having contact with the upper management at WDFW, rubbing shoulder so to speak, than actually knowing just how bad the current administration is. :twocents:

I have always said during my career that there are two types of public employees, one who spends his or her time working for the public interest, and one who spends time working for their self interest.  Unfortunately the prior has little time to engage in the political backstabbing arena that propels one up the chain of command.  The latter does.  Those latter ones in general are the ones running the agency and programs within, and setting policy.  It's really just that simple.

ucwarden now has the time to do what he feels is necessary.  Before he was too busy doing his job for all of you, while fending off all the political crap from within.  Lots of good folks, or at least there used to be in the agency, as I've been retired 11 1/2 years now.  Would have worked longer, but just had enough.  Unfortunately if you try to do what's right for the license buying public, you quickly butt heads with others who don't hold the same values.  For what it worth.   
I agree 100% ...thanks for summing it up  :tup:

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has anyone else gotten any spamming emails from this change website? im getting emails to sign other things that i dont know anything about?  :dunno:


I have not got any spamming yet . what is the count this evening ?

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I saw 166 remaining when I signed.

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I saw 166 remaining when I signed.

I have been busy as can be with my polygraph business and the booth at the Bighorn Show, but wanted to thank all of you for your great support, comments and signatures.  We kinda stalled at 840 signatures, and I would sure like to see 1,000 by Sunday night, so if you have a few minutes please spread the word to everyone on your email list.

Thanks again to all of you.  The support has been great, and it's cool to meet a bunch of you in person at the Bighorn Show.

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Please spread the word about the petition, and keep it going

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Please spread the work, and let's try our best to have it Washington residents only (I appreciate the out-of-state support, but I don't think it will carry much weight with our legislature).

http://www.change.org/petitions/washington-state-fish-and-wildlife-commission-remove-wdfw-director-phil-anderson-chief-steve-crown-and-deputy-chief-mike-cenci

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UC I done know if you seen it but big j,s wont let me put the petition there, I still got about 10 signatures from guys I work with and my wife and son, I wish it was more I will get it in the mail next week, gotta make a couple more stops with it first
my grandpa always said "if it aint broke dont fix it"

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UC I done know if you seen it but big j,s wont let me put the petition there, I still got about 10 signatures from guys I work with and my wife and son, I wish it was more I will get it in the mail next week, gotta make a couple more stops with it first

I did read that, and appreciate your support.  I also understand where they are coming from, as this is a pretty heated debate, and lot's of businesses try to stay neutral to make sure they don't offend any customers.

Thanks for trying!

 


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