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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #840 on: October 08, 2015, 05:25:25 AM »
Posted a link on facebook, I hope to get another 10 before the close of the day, people need to get on this ASAP. Thanks for taking this challenge on.

You are very welcome......doubt I will ever get drawn for a Dayton bull tag now
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #841 on: October 08, 2015, 05:58:25 AM »
So, is this investigation strictly about Operation Cody?  Is there anything else being looked at? What about the suit filed by the Tarrabochias? I think that is the right name anyhow?

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #842 on: October 08, 2015, 06:19:05 AM »
I haven't read all the documents, but wow... how can Cenci still have a job at WDFW? How is he still in enforcement in any capacity with any organization?  Clearly a bad apple and liability.




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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #843 on: October 08, 2015, 06:31:41 AM »
I haven't read all the documents, but wow... how can Cenci still have a job at WDFW? How is he still in enforcement in any capacity with any organization?  Clearly a bad apple and liability.

Pretty sickening, huh?  Worst thing is, it's all been laid on the table for quite a while now and keeps dragging on without anyone being punished.  Hats off once again to uc for all his hard work trying to make this a better place for all us hunters.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #844 on: October 08, 2015, 08:53:06 AM »
Good grief - If Cenci isn't finished after this there is no hope for WDFW enforcement.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #845 on: October 08, 2015, 11:55:37 AM »
So, is this investigation strictly about Operation Cody?  Is there anything else being looked at? What about the suit filed by the Tarrabochias? I think that is the right name anyhow?

No, I my introductory letter I explain that WSP was limited to investigating Operation CODY and the allegations (against Cenci) which were investigated by private attorney Amy Stephson.  Additional allegations, and testimony, will be in the other 6,000 pages which I should have around the first week of November.  Once I get that information, I will get it on the website too.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #846 on: October 08, 2015, 12:01:38 PM »
I haven't read all the documents, but wow... how can Cenci still have a job at WDFW? How is he still in enforcement in any capacity with any organization?  Clearly a bad apple and liability.

My opinion only here; The reason Cenci has lasted so very long, despite his bullying, threatening and unprofessional behavior is that actually runs the show.  I believe Crown is too disconnected and lethargic to actually do anything, so he sits back and lets Cenci run wild, and Hobbs is about 15 steps above is capability.  It is the perfect storm of workplace terrorism.  A few bad apples have all the power and intimidate the employees into keeping their mouths shut.  Well that is all done now; the good officers have had it and are coming forward and pleading their cases.  It is just a matter of if the director will actually listen and do something. 

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #847 on: October 09, 2015, 03:37:00 PM »
I added some new material to the website (   www.wdfwinvestigation.com  ) today, and will continue to do so until there is some acceptable resolution.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #848 on: October 10, 2015, 09:32:26 AM »
Check www.wdfwinvestigation.com for additional information, added this morning.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #849 on: October 11, 2015, 10:39:49 PM »
Todd,

Why isn't there a push (or at least a visible one) to remove Chadwick as Captain? It seems like outside of HQ only Myers is getting some heat, yet it seems like there were more issues (Cenci's best bud, residency requirement, etc) with the promotion of Chadwick then Myers. Granted Myers shouldn't have gotten promoted either considering he's never supervised anyone.

Also, to me it looks like in Nixon's letter he wants Cenci to be fired but Crown, Hobbs, and Myers to lose their positions (get demoted.) Is that something you'd like as well, or would you prefer for them all to be fired?

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #850 on: October 12, 2015, 06:46:04 AM »
Todd,

Why isn't there a push (or at least a visible one) to remove Chadwick as Captain? It seems like outside of HQ only Myers is getting some heat, yet it seems like there were more issues (Cenci's best bud, residency requirement, etc) with the promotion of Chadwick then Myers. Granted Myers shouldn't have gotten promoted either considering he's never supervised anyone.

Also, to me it looks like in Nixon's letter he wants Cenci to be fired but Crown, Hobbs, and Myers to lose their positions (get demoted.) Is that something you'd like as well, or would you prefer for them all to be fired?

My main goal is to make it a safe, secure, fair, open and non-hostile work environment for WDFW officers, so they can freely do their jobs of protecting the natural resources.  To that end, Chadwick really hasn't posed a threat.  While many object to the manner in-which he was promoted (as do I), I haven't heard any complaints about his behavior as captain. 

The bitter side of me wants them all fired, but the realistic side knows that won't happen.  Hell, it has taken 3 years and thousands of my hours to make it to the point that WDFW is even discussing what to do.  I think what everyone wants is immediate relief from the tyranny.  How that happens is less important, as long as there is no chance of them coming back.

Also; we all assume that if Cenci was ever fired, the rest of the house of cards would collapse on it's own.  Clearly new leadership (or real leadership) is badly needed.  I hope the new leadership would figure out it's time to clean house as soon as he or she is in-place. 

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #851 on: October 12, 2015, 07:31:14 AM »
So, what's going on with getting rid of these guys ? I notice Cenci on TV just about every week....
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #852 on: October 12, 2015, 07:31:39 AM »
Todd,

Why isn't there a push (or at least a visible one) to remove Chadwick as Captain? It seems like outside of HQ only Myers is getting some heat, yet it seems like there were more issues (Cenci's best bud, residency requirement, etc) with the promotion of Chadwick then Myers. Granted Myers shouldn't have gotten promoted either considering he's never supervised anyone.

Also, to me it looks like in Nixon's letter he wants Cenci to be fired but Crown, Hobbs, and Myers to lose their positions (get demoted.) Is that something you'd like as well, or would you prefer for them all to be fired?

My main goal is to make it a safe, secure, fair, open and non-hostile work environment for WDFW officers, so they can freely do their jobs of protecting the natural resources.  To that end, Chadwick really hasn't posed a threat.  While many object to the manner in-which he was promoted (as do I), I haven't heard any complaints about his behavior as captain. 

The bitter side of me wants them all fired, but the realistic side knows that won't happen.  Hell, it has taken 3 years and thousands of my hours to make it to the point that WDFW is even discussing what to do.  I think what everyone wants is immediate relief from the tyranny.  How that happens is less important, as long as there is no chance of them coming back.

Also; we all assume that if Cenci was ever fired, the rest of the house of cards would collapse on it's own.  Clearly new leadership (or real leadership) is badly needed.  I hope the new leadership would figure out it's time to clean house as soon as he or she is in-place.

UC - can't say it enough man, thanks for all your hard work on this.  For the majority of us, there is no way for us to even know this corruption exists unless people like yourself volunteer a lot of time to make this all public.

THANK YOU!   :tup:

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #853 on: October 12, 2015, 08:27:14 AM »
So, what's going on with getting rid of these guys ? I notice Cenci on TV just about every week....

The ball is entirely in Director Unsworth's court.  He received the entire 6,000+ page report from WSP on 09/25/15 (I won't receive it until the first week in November).  Thus far I haven't seen any change at all.  These same guys are still in the same positions doing the same things.  I don't know if the director will ever take any action or not, as he won't reply to my questions anymore.

Please take the time to send Unsworth an email, or call him, and let him know you opinion.  Pretty soon, the media will be asking him to explain his inaction, and I can't wait to hear his response.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #854 on: October 12, 2015, 08:29:37 AM »
Todd,

Why isn't there a push (or at least a visible one) to remove Chadwick as Captain? It seems like outside of HQ only Myers is getting some heat, yet it seems like there were more issues (Cenci's best bud, residency requirement, etc) with the promotion of Chadwick then Myers. Granted Myers shouldn't have gotten promoted either considering he's never supervised anyone.

Also, to me it looks like in Nixon's letter he wants Cenci to be fired but Crown, Hobbs, and Myers to lose their positions (get demoted.) Is that something you'd like as well, or would you prefer for them all to be fired?

My main goal is to make it a safe, secure, fair, open and non-hostile work environment for WDFW officers, so they can freely do their jobs of protecting the natural resources.  To that end, Chadwick really hasn't posed a threat.  While many object to the manner in-which he was promoted (as do I), I haven't heard any complaints about his behavior as captain. 

The bitter side of me wants them all fired, but the realistic side knows that won't happen.  Hell, it has taken 3 years and thousands of my hours to make it to the point that WDFW is even discussing what to do.  I think what everyone wants is immediate relief from the tyranny.  How that happens is less important, as long as there is no chance of them coming back.

Also; we all assume that if Cenci was ever fired, the rest of the house of cards would collapse on it's own.  Clearly new leadership (or real leadership) is badly needed.  I hope the new leadership would figure out it's time to clean house as soon as he or she is in-place.

UC - can't say it enough man, thanks for all your hard work on this.  For the majority of us, there is no way for us to even know this corruption exists unless people like yourself volunteer a lot of time to make this all public.

THANK YOU!   :tup:

Thanks, but we will see if any of this works.

 


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