PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI

[ucwarden]

Just so everyone knows, I will be off this forum for a few days, because I will me manning my booth at the Bighorn show.
I will be there the entire show, except on Friday when I won't get there until about 5pm (my wife and some friends will be manning the booth while I am gone).
Take care, and have a great weekend.
Keep gathering signatures and I hope to meet some of you at the show!

[gottatree]

I'm friends with several retired and current wardens in region 6. I brought this topic up the other night with one active and one retired warden. After processing our conversation at length UC has not touched the surface of the incompetence of these individuals that need to be removed from WDFW. I'm even more amazed at why these individuals have been allowed to run a department for as long as they have.         

[jackmaster]

And that speaks volumes in itself to UCWARDEN , he is not willing to smear them in the mud on an open forum..... I will follow while he leads the way

[ucwarden]

And that speaks volumes in itself to UCWARDEN , he is not willing to smear them in the mud on an open forum..... I will follow while he leads the way

It's more than that. I know for certain that the information on this forum is making it's way to the very people I am working to remove, so I am very careful about tipping my hand.  I don't want the opposing team to see my playbook....keep em guessing, but there is way more to come.

[BULLBLASTER]

Done.

[gottatree]

That was exactly my thought. One of the active wardens said he will be retaliated against for signing the petition. He also told me about another employee that kept looking into a poaching ring on the Peninsula after being told not to spend anymore time on the case. He was then moved into the most hated departments in any law enforcement agency. 

[gottatree]

The old Captain of region 6 is a great guy. He would still be there if he could be.  Trust me if he was ABLE to look into something he would have got it done. You have some very good wardens on the Peninsula now. I can not say enough about most of these guys. The love they have for wildlife and the passion they have for the job they hold is real.   

[trophyhunt]

Big j's in orting won't post the petition!  Jackmaster drop off a copy two days ago and they called him today to pick it up and said they won't post it.  Looks like I'm shopping in enumclaw for now on, too bad, I liked shopping there.

[Jonathan_S]

Anyone know what booth ucwarden is running at the Bighorn Show?

[huntnphool]

I've gotten a few messages with positive comments regarding Director Anderson. Comments that he is taking the dept in a more positive direction than any if the past directors. Other comments saying the dept is a little lopsided in favor of fisheries, but getting better.   Other comments saying he's the best director the dept has had in a few decades. I haven't been in this state for very long compared to the rest of you guys and don't really have a solid opinion on this. Thoughts??

Look, I have nothing against the director personally, it is just that he has allowed a few bad people to run wild, and it has deeply affected a lot of really good officers.  We are losing good game wardens at an unprecedented rate, and as a result of that our resources are going to take it in the shorts.  It's that simple.

And that's a shame. I have had nothing but positive experience with officers in the field and I'd hate to see good officers leaving because of the politics in administration.

[ucwarden]

Anyone know what booth ucwarden is running at the Bighorn Show?

We are right next to the Eastern Washington State University Sportsman club, I think it's booth 65, across from booth 27.

[jackmaster]

bump for hopefully some more signatures, anyone know what the number is up to now? i had taken a binder with 20 pages worth of petitions to be signed to BIG Js in orting, i thought i would hit the jackpot of signatures there, well the owner called me yesterday and told me to come pick it up, and that they dont want to display it there  kinda sucks if you ask me, its a sporting goods store, for the sportsman. is it illegal for a sporting goods store to display a petition? kinda depressing, i have done alot of shopping there over the years, even before it was BIG Js, well the short of it is, i wont be shopping there anymore, i know one person doesnt make a differance in their income but i dont care, i would rather go to the sportsmans wharehouse anyways, more guns and all around more toys for men 

[Wacenturion]

I've gotten a few messages with positive comments regarding Director Anderson. Comments that he is taking the dept in a more positive direction than any if the past directors. Other comments saying the dept is a little lopsided in favor of fisheries, but getting better.   Other comments saying he's the best director the dept has had in a few decades. I haven't been in this state for very long compared to the rest of you guys and don't really have a solid opinion on this. Thoughts??

From a 30 year retired WDFW employee myself, that is a complete falsehood.  Although there were problems before merger in both old Dept. of Wildlife and Dept. of Fisheries in 1993, it has gone downhill ever since.  Fisheries even back before merger was more commercially oriented in their policy.  Consider for a moment that old Wildlife had approximately 600 employees tops.  Fisheries had close to 1000, plus or minus (don't remember the exact number).  Add into the equation the focus on salmon restoration over the past 20 years and essentially wildlife gets left in the dust.

One only has to look at the previous policy choices driven by salmon issues.  First a Director chosen from Alaska in 1999, who was probably the worst Director the Dept ever had in my opinion (as well as many others in WDFW then), and a subsequent hire by the Commission of his chosen assistant when he left.  I could shed some additional light based on my opinion, but for now I'll just leave it at that.  Don't get me wrong, salmon should be a priority, but so should many other things.   

I also agree with one of the above statements...The Commission is a joke.  Nothing but a politically accommodating body who puts what appears to be, an acceptable stamp of approval on something of policy or regulation.  Just like lesser entities of the agency's Game Management Council and other policy groups.  In reality it is just another storefront to manipulate the public.

The comment from the President of the Puget Sound Anglers, to me, is coming more from a perspective of his position actually having contact with the upper management at WDFW, rubbing shoulder so to speak, than actually knowing just how bad the current administration is.

I have always said during my career that there are two types of public employees, one who spends his or her time working for the public interest, and one who spends time working for their self interest.  Unfortunately the prior has little time to engage in the political backstabbing arena that propels one up the chain of command.  The latter does.  Those latter ones in general are the ones running the agency and programs within, and setting policy.  It's really just that simple.

ucwarden now has the time to do what he feels is necessary.  Before he was too busy doing his job for all of you, while fending off all the political crap from within.  Lots of good folks, or at least there used to be in the agency, as I've been retired 11 1/2 years now.  Would have worked longer, but just had enough.  Unfortunately if you try to do what's right for the license buying public, you quickly butt heads with others who don't hold the same values.  For what it worth.   

[Jonathan_S]

Anyone know what booth ucwarden is running at the Bighorn Show?

We are right next to the Eastern Washington State University Sportsman club, I think it's booth 65, across from booth 27.

Thanks!  I'll check it out, I'd like to thank you in person and see what you guys have up.

[HighCountryHunter88]

has anyone else gotten any spamming emails from this change website? im getting emails to sign other things that i dont know anything about?