PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI

[elk101]

Can you post the official firing report so we can have both sides of the story

[ucwarden]

Can you post the official firing report so we can have both sides of the story

What official firing report?  Are you referring to Officer Dave Jones termination?  If so, no I can't for several reasons; I don't have a copy, and I am pretty sure it can not be released without consent of all parties.

[returnofsid]

UCWarden, it was great to meet you yesterday!  I'm the guy who visited you twice, needing to wait for my girlfriend before I purchased your book...lol.  We discussed Bob Coleman.  Again, it was great to meet you and I look forward to reading your book!

I had previously signed the online petition, so I didn't sign the paper petition you had.  I figure, if this petition DOES go anywhere, the signatures will be looked over with a fine toothed comb.  A double signature might just give the opposition something to complain about...lol

[ucwarden]

UCWarden, it was great to meet you yesterday!  I'm the guy who visited you twice, needing to wait for my girlfriend before I purchased your book...lol.  We discussed Bob Coleman.  Again, it was great to meet you and I look forward to reading your book!

I had previously signed the online petition, so I didn't sign the paper petition you had.  I figure, if this petition DOES go anywhere, the signatures will be looked over with a fine toothed comb.  A double signature might just give the opposition something to complain about...lol

Thanks, but to clarify I do not want anyone to sign the petition more than once, and have never asked anyone to do so.

[returnofsid]

UCWarden, it was great to meet you yesterday!  I'm the guy who visited you twice, needing to wait for my girlfriend before I purchased your book...lol.  We discussed Bob Coleman.  Again, it was great to meet you and I look forward to reading your book!

I had previously signed the online petition, so I didn't sign the paper petition you had.  I figure, if this petition DOES go anywhere, the signatures will be looked over with a fine toothed comb.  A double signature might just give the opposition something to complain about...lol

Thanks, but to clarify I do not want anyone to sign the petition more than once, and have never asked anyone to do so.

Oh absolutely understood! I wasn't asked to sign it twice. Didn't mean for my post to come across that way at all.

[elk101]

Can you post the official firing report so we can have both sides of the story

What official firing report?  Are you referring to Officer Dave Jones termination?  If so, no I can't for several reasons; I don't have a copy, and I am pretty sure it can not be released without consent of all parties.

Yes the full report I would like both sides of story before I sign as nobody has a replacement in mine and wildlife is very important but the fish is a lot of states and Feds to deal with and commercial guys that will push to get their guys in as it is not a spot where sportsmen get to pick or appoint 

[buckfvr]

WDFW makes false claims and false statements all the time......why would you expect a firing report to be any different.............??

WDFWs history of everything being agenda driven should be enough.......is for me.

[jackmaster]

Can you post the official firing report so we can have both sides of the story

What official firing report?  Are you referring to Officer Dave Jones termination?  If so, no I can't for several reasons; I don't have a copy, and I am pretty sure it can not be released without consent of all parties.

Yes the full report I would like both sides of story before I sign as nobody has a replacement in mine and wildlife is very important but the fish is a lot of states and Feds to deal with and commercial guys that will push to get their guys in as it is not a spot where sportsmen get to pick or appoint

always gotta be a guy like this, you just cant take a good mans word for it, I smell a troll, gotta stir the pot do ya

[jackelope]

Wacenturian,
Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it. Sounds like your reinforcing what ucwarden and some others have had to say. Gotta be sad for you guys to see the direction WDFW has gone!

I agree. Thanks for the input. These messages I got were just others' opinions I felt like I should share. No intent either way was meant. Thanks again.

[KFhunter]

KFhunter –

Thanks for signing Todd Vandivert’s petition. By adding your name, you became a part of this campaign for change.



861 now,  should top 1000 pretty soon

[JLS]

Can you post the official firing report so we can have both sides of the story

What official firing report?  Are you referring to Officer Dave Jones termination?  If so, no I can't for several reasons; I don't have a copy, and I am pretty sure it can not be released without consent of all parties.

Yes the full report I would like both sides of story before I sign as nobody has a replacement in mine and wildlife is very important but the fish is a lot of states and Feds to deal with and commercial guys that will push to get their guys in as it is not a spot where sportsmen get to pick or appoint

always gotta be a guy like this, you just cant take a good mans word for it, I smell a troll, gotta stir the pot do ya

Since when did wanting all of the information, i.e. both sides of a story, constitute being a troll?

Good grief, so much for making independent and thoughtful decisions and conclusions

[JJD]

While I believe that UC is probably pretty close to being spot on and we need a close look at whos minding the store , calling JLS a pot stirrer is Crap.
I thank GOD that guys like JLS ask the tough questions, we all need to have the guts to do the same.
 
Don't drink the cool-aid, no matter who is serving it.

[ucwarden]

Can you post the official firing report so we can have both sides of the story

What official firing report?  Are you referring to Officer Dave Jones termination?  If so, no I can't for several reasons; I don't have a copy, and I am pretty sure it can not be released without consent of all parties.

Yes the full report I would like both sides of story before I sign as nobody has a replacement in mine and wildlife is very important but the fish is a lot of states and Feds to deal with and commercial guys that will push to get their guys in as it is not a spot where sportsmen get to pick or appoint

always gotta be a guy like this, you just cant take a good mans word for it, I smell a troll, gotta stir the pot do ya

Since when did wanting all of the information, i.e. both sides of a story, constitute being a troll?

Good grief, so much for making independent and thoughtful decisions and conclusions

It doesn't.  You have to understand that this website is open to anyone, and the very people I am working to remove are likely reading these messages, so it gets everyone a little suspicious.  I do not have access to information you are requesting, or I would provide it.

[JLS]

Can you post the official firing report so we can have both sides of the story

What official firing report?  Are you referring to Officer Dave Jones termination?  If so, no I can't for several reasons; I don't have a copy, and I am pretty sure it can not be released without consent of all parties.

Yes the full report I would like both sides of story before I sign as nobody has a replacement in mine and wildlife is very important but the fish is a lot of states and Feds to deal with and commercial guys that will push to get their guys in as it is not a spot where sportsmen get to pick or appoint

always gotta be a guy like this, you just cant take a good mans word for it, I smell a troll, gotta stir the pot do ya

Since when did wanting all of the information, i.e. both sides of a story, constitute being a troll?

Good grief, so much for making independent and thoughtful decisions and conclusions

It doesn't.  You have to understand that this website is open to anyone, and the very people I am working to remove are likely reading these messages, so it gets everyone a little suspicious.  I do not have access to information you are requesting, or I would provide it.

My response wasn't directed at you.  I don't expect that you would have access to the personnel decision and it wasn't me that asked for it.

My response was directed at the comment to take someone at face value and that a person is a troll if they don't.  I certainly don't make a habit out of taking people at their word on the internet without doing my own research, and I wouldn't advise others to either.

[BK]

I feel that internet petitions are worth somewhat less than the paper they are printed on.
 Mr. Vandivert's book, even when the personal animosity between him and Mr. Cenci is discounted, raises points that need to be addressed. It also points out serious flaws in the institutional culture of WDFW that have acted to the detriment of that organization's mission and the Public which it serves. I am sending copies of "Operation Cody" to both my State Representative, and my State Senator. I feel that if each and every one of the Drones in Olympia were to receive multiple copies perhaps they would be moved to get off their collective butts and address some very serious issues.
I would urge those reading this to follow my lead and send copies to their representatives in Olympia.
Sincerely,
BK