PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI

[Knocker of rocks]

Anyone that  thinks that letter is a bunch of nothing is willing to accept and look past a lot of BS in state agencies.

I don't think anybody is saying the letter is "nothing"...it just falls far short of what it would take to remove top administrators from their posts.  A whole bunch of the letter comes off as a disgruntled ex-employee...and that is why it is really easy for people in power (governor, legislators etc.) to brush this off as they have. 

No doubt Cenci is a pos who should be fired...and hopefully this will help setup the discussion for hiring the next chief of LE whenever that time comes...but there is nothing so scathing that would trigger immediate removal.  In fact, a lot of it falls under the "life is not fair" rule...promotions, favoritism, nepotism, etc. occurs in many public and private workplaces...it is not unique to wdfw and while it sucks it is rarely something that results in discipline/termination.

I think any further pressure on wdfw admin has to come from folks besides UC...he is easy to impeach as just another disgruntled employee...its not fair to him...but life's not fair.  I believe the focus should be on Cenci and not Crown or Anderson.

 

[sakoshooter]

Got the email about Anderson leaving. Good. No, great. Not sure if UC Warden's pot stirring had anything to do with it or not. Either way, it's a good thing.

[ucwarden]

Got the email about Anderson leaving. Good. No, great. Not sure if UC Warden's pot stirring had anything to do with it or not. Either way, it's a good thing.

I have no idea if my cause had anything to do with the director's decision to leave or not, but I will take it either way.  Now a couple more to go, and we have to make sure we get a director who listens, and pays attention, just a little bit more.  It would also be nice if the next director gave some attention to wildlife rather than giving all his attention to fish.

[BOWHUNTER45]

That's great ..we still have along long road ahead of us  So how does that work ? Does Cenci automatically become director ?

[Forks]

That's great ..we still have along long road ahead of us  So how does that work ? Does Cenci automatically become director ?

ucwarden, help this man please.

[ucwarden]

That's great ..we still have along long road ahead of us  So how does that work ? Does Cenci automatically become director ?

I assume the deputy director will take over, but if not they will open the director position up for any and all applicants.  It is inconceivable that Cenci (or anyone from enforcement) would get the director position.  I am not too worried about who the new director is, as long as he or she has an open mind and supports all fish and wildlife on both sides of the state...for once.

[nwwanderer]

Tall order UCWARDEN, a director that did not mind rolling heads would also be helpful

[ucwarden]

Tall order UCWARDEN, a director that did not mind rolling heads would also be helpful

It is very easy to get discouraged, but there really are a lot of good honest people within WDFW as well as outside of WDFW (who might be interested in the Director's position).  Right now my main focus is on getting attention focused on what has been happening in enforcement, so whoever takes over as director cleans house.   

[pianoman9701]

Tall order UCWARDEN, a director that did not mind rolling heads would also be helpful

It is very easy to get discouraged, but there really are a lot of good honest people within WDFW as well as outside of WDFW (who might be interested in the Director's position).  Right now my main focus is on getting attention focused on what has been happening in enforcement, so whoever takes over as director cleans house.

So, knowing what you know, who would you pick from existing personnel to lead the department?

[ucwarden]

Tall order UCWARDEN, a director that did not mind rolling heads would also be helpful

It is very easy to get discouraged, but there really are a lot of good honest people within WDFW as well as outside of WDFW (who might be interested in the Director's position).  Right now my main focus is on getting attention focused on what has been happening in enforcement, so whoever takes over as director cleans house.

So, knowing what you know, who would you pick from existing personnel to lead the department?

I have several in mind, but to be honest if I list them out on this public forum it would be like "the kiss of death" to their careers.  They would instantly be viewed as undesirable as they would be viewed as a friend of mine, which would therefore make them an enemy of the present administration.

[ghosthunter]

Sooooo what's the chance of getting rid of Cenci and is it Meyer in Region 4.?

Time to make a clean sweep.

And what about Nate? Seems like he has been a little misleading on wolves.

And maybe the guy who let them spend $75,000.00 plus on orange fake guns for Hunter Ed. He should go too.

[ucwarden]

Sooooo what's the chance of getting rid of Cenci and is it Meyer in Region 4.?

Time to make a clean sweep.

And what about Nate? Seems like he has been a little misleading on wolves.

And maybe the guy who let them spend $75,000.00 plus on orange fake guns for Hunter Ed. He should go too.

That is the six-million dollar question.  So far the response, to my 10 page letter regarding "serious WDFW issues", from the legislators has been pretty bleak.  The governor has never even responded, despite my attempts to get him or his office to even verify receipt. 
However the media, and an investigative branch of the state have been digging into it, so a lot depends on what they find and the aftermath.  As far as I can tell, the WDFW commission has never even discussed the letter, even though I was told it was going to be discussed at the last commission meeting (last week).  I wasn't at the meeting (maybe someone on here was), but I looked on the commission website and I sure don't see any mention of it.
It will also depend on who ends running the dept., and if he or she wants to make the changes that most of us believe need to be made.

[ghosthunter]

Maybe this is a good time to email the commission and ask them to look into it.?
Coupe hundred emails might help push some action.

[Curly]

Maybe this is a good time to email the commission and ask them to look into it.?
Coupe hundred emails might help push some action.

That is what I'm thinking as well.  Maybe even letters to the editor of newspapers and magazines like nw sportsman. Time to really apply some pressure to get some change in the right direction.

[ghosthunter]

Maybe this is a good time to email the commission and ask them to look into it.?
Coupe hundred emails might help push some action.

That is what I'm thinking as well.  Maybe even letters to the editor of newspapers and magazines like nw sportsman. Time to really apply some pressure to get some change in the right direction.

Yep now might be the time to get everyone talking about this. It also might influence Director candidates.
Now till December seems like a ideal time to put pressure on.