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Maybe this is a good time to email the commission and ask them to look into it.?
Coupe hundred emails might help push some action.

And your legislators, that's an excellent idea!

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #676 on: September 10, 2014, 11:40:25 AM »
A while back someone posted my letter on a fishing website, and the link was then posted on here.  Knocker of Rocks (as well as a few others) were not impressed with the information in that letter.  Another complaint was some of the information was old (so I guess in some people's minds it was not important).  Well how is the attached for fresh?

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #677 on: September 10, 2014, 12:15:06 PM »
UC - I was critical of your original letter and did not think it provided merit for your claims of removal.  Reading briefly the attachment, this is exactly the kind of information that I think should/could lead to some firing.  I would be very curious to hear WDFW admin, Chief Crown etc. explain or condone Cenci's behavior based on this case and if/how he was/will be disciplined!!!! 
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #678 on: September 10, 2014, 12:25:09 PM »
UC - I was critical of your original letter and did not think it provided merit for your claims of removal.  Reading briefly the attachment, this is exactly the kind of information that I think should/could lead to some firing.  I would be very curious to hear WDFW admin, Chief Crown etc. explain or condone Cenci's behavior based on this case and if/how he was/will be disciplined!!!!

Either way, I have a feeling a lot of our license dollars are going to be spent paying off the lawsuit which I am sure will be coming immediately.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #679 on: September 10, 2014, 12:33:53 PM »
Wow. The plot thickens
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #680 on: September 10, 2014, 12:44:16 PM »
Wow. The plot thickens

Now it will be interesting to see if anyone really cares.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #681 on: September 10, 2014, 12:48:50 PM »
One or two more of these could tip the scales. :twocents:
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #682 on: September 10, 2014, 01:13:06 PM »
So I am driving down a FS road. With Hunter orange on and a game officer in his truck going the other way flags me down and wants to look in my  truck for loaded gun.

Legal or not?

Wants  to look in my canopy. ?

I am assuming he can request to see my papers.?????????
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #683 on: September 10, 2014, 01:17:52 PM »
Pulling you over without reason to think you are violating the law sure sounds illegal and could, according the Tarabochia decision attached to UC Warden's post, result in personal liability for the officer for violation of your 4th Amendment rights.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #684 on: September 10, 2014, 04:01:04 PM »
After reading that it's hard to believe Cenci still has a job...
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #685 on: September 10, 2014, 04:06:58 PM »
After reading that it's hard to believe Cenci still has a job...
with WDFW it's more likely they'll promote him.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #686 on: September 10, 2014, 04:11:59 PM »
So I am driving down a FS road. With Hunter orange on and a game officer in his truck going the other way flags me down and wants to look in my  truck for loaded gun.

Legal or not?

Wants  to look in my canopy. ?

I am assuming he can request to see my papers.?????????

Most people don't even know their rights.  They don't know about illegal search and seizure.  Most would just be polite and gladly abide to whatever the LEO asked. 

The actions in the above are disgusting to me.  It really gets me when people in a powerfull position abuse that power.  And LEO's can be the worst.  We are suppose to be able to trust them during the worst moments of our lives.  And some of them pull this crap. 

I have a ton of respect for what these guys and gals do.  Maybe that's why it bugs me so much when I hear about the bad ones.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #687 on: September 10, 2014, 04:16:05 PM »
So I am driving down a FS road. With Hunter orange on and a game officer in his truck going the other way flags me down and wants to look in my  truck for loaded gun.

Legal or not?

Wants  to look in my canopy. ?

I am assuming he can request to see my papers.?????????
It is legal for him to search your vehicle if you are hunting.
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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #688 on: September 10, 2014, 04:20:49 PM »
So I am driving down a FS road. With Hunter orange on and a game officer in his truck going the other way flags me down and wants to look in my  truck for loaded gun.

Legal or not?

Wants  to look in my canopy. ?

I am assuming he can request to see my papers.?????????
It is legal for him to search your vehicle if you are hunting.
Unless your vehicle is your 'residence' at the time, even temporary; but only the part you are 'living' in.  There's some kind of clause that applies to boats/cars and their searches.

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Re: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI
« Reply #689 on: September 10, 2014, 04:22:43 PM »
So I am driving down a FS road. With Hunter orange on and a game officer in his truck going the other way flags me down and wants to look in my  truck for loaded gun.

Legal or not?

Wants  to look in my canopy. ?

I am assuming he can request to see my papers.?????????
It is legal for him to search your vehicle if you are hunting.

Did you read the 9th Circuit ruling?

 


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