PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI

[Skillet]

Turbo, nothing personal - but I feel you are being too generous with the use of the "hero" tag.  We are not heros for simply supporting those who really have something at stake.  But I will tell you that it feels damn good to know that you have it in you to do the right thing, no matter what.  I, too, was worried about retaliation when I got loud about it and wrote many letters to political leaders about this situation.  I did it anyway, because I believe it is a responsibility a citizen in our representative government bears.  When dealing with unscrupulous people in positions of authority, it is true you are taking a chance of being targeted by standing up to be heard.  The more people that stand to be heard, however, the more marginalized the abusers become and the less likely that one single person will be targeted for writing that letter or calling their senator.  The abuser's power lies only in the fear of people to speak out and say "this is not right, and I will not tolerate it being ignored any longer." 

There are times in life that self-interest must be weighed against doing the right thing.  I think this is one of those times that we must make that decision for each one of us.  I think very highly of the general ethical fortitude of the people on this board, and I believe if each of us thinks about what we will  tell our children about the decision we made about this issue, it will be easy to follow through with making our individual voices heard to Director Unsworth and others.  We must stand up to hold these people accountable in spite of the fear of retaliation.  Not doing so is being complicit in their abuse of power - and undermining the efforts of those who do risk attracting the unwanted attention of those that can retaliate in some way.

 

[turbo]

Skillet - Okay Hero might be a bit strong but I think you can concede that making your voice heard on these issues while employed by an unaccountable, out of control, government agency with zero consequence for their actions is a little scary.

It's a lot different than me telling my hunting 14 hunting buddys whom have zero knowledge of this BTW, to sign petitions, send letter and risk draws. Your right, we need to support the cause and I plan to inform my group and get involved. Thanks! 

[Skillet]

Copy that -  I didn't pick up that you were talking about the guys working within the WDFW.

Thank you for spreading the word and sending in that letter.  I honestly don't think that you're risking a chance at a draw.  That is a mathematical process and can be objectively scrutinized.  What I do believe you are risking is making it onto an unofficial list of people that might get a little extra attention during a field contact if you're approached by one of the corrupt or their cronies.  It is my opinion that the longer that list is, the less chance anyone person on it will be on the receiving end of unlawful or unethical treatment by the corrupt within WDFW.  At some point the corrupt enforcement officers will realize they can no longer rule via harassment and intimidation.

Everybody that I talk to about this, hunter and non-hunter alike, always respond with the same thing - "Are you kidding me??"  It is sad, but we are not kidding.  This rock needs to be turned over and the corrupt creatures that hide under it stomped out.

[Special T]

I no longer put in for special tags/draws So i have nothing to fear....

[bearpaw]

Let's see more movement on actually doing something about wolves and see if he keeps grizzlies out of our state!!

Every good thing is a good thing.  Doesn't hurt to accept small wins once in a while.  Nothing is going to happen quickly wolf-wise and Grizz have been here for a very long time and aren't on the precipice of population explosion.

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Grizzlies have been here a long time, wolves are a part of the landscape now, what's important is how we manage them going forward!

I agree with Idahohntr, I think Unsworth was by far the best man for the job, his actions thus far are not letting us down! 

ucwarden congratulations, this effort is making some headway! 

[HntnFsh]

Just thought I would check in to see if UC warden has gotten any feedback into the investigation?

[ucwarden]

Just thought I would check in to see if UC warden has gotten any feedback into the investigation?

Not a whole lot.  I know the investigation is still going full speed, and I know they are still conducting interviews, but those being interviewed are asked to not discuss their testimony with others (as it should be).  I expect the interviews to continue through most of July, then am guessing this will all be wrapped up by mid-August, but that is just a guess. 

[MtnMuley]

 

[HntnFsh]

Thank you for the update U.C. I  appreciate it.  Hard  to be patient. But not much  else  we can do!

[ucwarden]

Thank you for the update U.C. I  appreciate it.  Hard  to be patient. But not much  else  we can do!

If you think it's hard for you and I to be patient (on the outside) think what it is like for the land officers working under this administration; many of them can't wait for this all to be resolved.

[HntnFsh]

Just  bumping this back to the  top in hopes of some news in the near future.

[Man Tracker]

WSP investigation is wrapping up.  They will complete a report and forward to Director Unsworth.  Upon completion, it should be available to the public.  By Public Disclosure Request if no other way.  Rumor has it the report will be ....

[Rainier10]

 

[HntnFsh]

WSP investigation is wrapping up.  They will complete a report and forward to Director Unsworth.  Upon completion, it should be available to the public.  By Public Disclosure Request if no other way.  Rumor has it the report will be ....

Nothing like leaving us hanging! 

[finnman]

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