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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2014, 07:23:16 PM »
WDFW, CNW, HSUS, and the CBD are all in bed together. I'll say it again and the wolf lovers on here will deny it; our DFW has been taken over by animal rights activists, which includes Jay Kehne being appointed to the Wildlife Commission. The proper thing for the DFW to do would've been to separate themselves from these enviro-wacko groups and just announce their own reward. It's very clear from this article where and with whom they stand.
Who specifically in the WDFW is an animal rights activist?  The WDFW staff I know are mostly hunters and all support hunting. 

I have mixed feelings on them partnering with some of these groups to offer a reward...in part I think its a political move to show them they will not condone wolf poaching perhaps in hopes they will listen to reason when it comes time to de-list them...not saying it will work but that may be a motive  :dunno:

Who specifically at wildlife is a hunter, buys a Washington license, books their vacation time to fit exactly into the tiny slot of hunt time provided, hits the woods and competes with other Washington hunters, aim at, shoots at and kills wild game, processes their kill, and files a report with the wa dept of wildlife?

What percentage of WDFW staff are hunters?

Supporting hunting and doing what Ice says are essentially  " talkin the talk " compared to  " walkin the walk ".   SO who are they Ida ??????????????????
Most all of the biologists and staff I know in Walla Walla, Dayton, Pomeroy, Asotin areas, the staff I interact with at GMAC meetings mostly all hunt, the Enforcement chief (crown) talked about his love of hunting as has asst. director Nate Pamplin (can't personally confirm they hunt of course).  My perception is that the vast majority of them hunt.  Get some retirees on here...ucwarden...how many of your co-workers hunt??  If I had to guess better than 80% of the biologists and wardens for wdfw are hunters.  Most guys and gals who pursue degrees and employment in wildlife fields do so because of an early passion for hunting and being outdoors...then they find out how much desk work is involved  :chuckle:  I would be surprised if there were any animal rights activists employed...if so, I doubt they say too much. 

Its ok to disagree with wdfw decisions/operations etc...that does not make them anti hunters or animal rights activists.  Way too darn many people on this forum like to say anybody who is not lock-step with them on every darn issue is an anti-hunter.   

So, your turn: Who at WDFW is an animal rights activist?  I want to know so we can get them off the dang payroll.
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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2014, 07:36:08 PM »
I think I can help WDFW with this,..... It's someone that owns a gun!

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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2014, 07:44:49 PM »
Sign the petition if you haven't guys!!  Just saying. :tup:
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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2014, 07:46:18 PM »
I would agree that most of those from the area you mention are living their dream, but its the ones in Olympia I dont trust.

The entire Puget Sound Basin is the problem......thats why I always cry out for regional management.........the guys over here could turn this thing around, as could those in s.e. wa.  Plenty of retired wardens could be elected to manage regional depts.  Its in their blood. 

Not being at liberty to say names, but it has been said by more than one person from within, that there is significant infiltration by activists on the west side....... :twocents:

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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2014, 08:40:29 PM »
Sorry guys, the WDFW is too far down the slippery slope to change directions now. The only way to change WDFW direction is with a new GOV and the next election is just too far away. We would have to get so organized and make a hell of a racket with a unified voice to get anywhere....
Id be willing to bet that half the people on this site don't vote.
I vote 2x (me and wife) and got my brother to start voting and quit complaining... Problem is we need more than just voting because the Machine has grown to the point where it can steam roll you no matter who gets elected.  I'm fortunate that my state rep does a good job and is aware of many of the issues i bring up, often times sending me a letter he has written himslef... Not too bad for a wet side politician.  :twocents:
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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2014, 09:17:58 PM »
And half of those that do vote, vote for libs.  :(

I vote..... and not liberal. I am trying to get my wife and I and our two conservative Springer Spaniels to the right side of the state asap.

This area sucks and the liberal takers will never stop. Hell, some dimba$$es voted in a socialist!!!!! Really??   :bash: :bash: :bash:
We don't blame cars for drunk drivers......Why blame guns for violent people...

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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2014, 09:30:25 PM »
Is this like clue?  I choose rtspring in the wedge with a tree limb.

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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2014, 05:24:36 PM »
I think now that more of the public are starting to recognize what WDF&Wolves really means, wolves in areas that WDFW haven't yet confirmed wolf packs or areas that they refuse to confirm in are starting to disappear. WDFW and their partners figure to scare people out of private wolf management. 


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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2014, 05:56:51 PM »
Personally I think it's a sad comment on our society when we can offer a $25,000 reward for the killing of a wolf but not a penny for any of the human murders that occur in this state every week.  Heck most don't even make the front page anymore. Something very wrong with that picture.

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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2014, 06:02:42 PM »
Personally I think it's a sad comment on our society when we can offer a $25,000 reward for the killing of a wolf but not a penny for any of the human murders that occur in this state every week.  Heck most don't even make the front page anymore. Something very wrong with that picture.
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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2014, 06:19:48 PM »
Anyone claim that $25,000 yet?  maybe the reward isn't enough?  :chuckle:
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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2014, 08:57:34 PM »
Washington is a wolf sanctuary state, and that isn't going to change any time soon.


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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2014, 10:56:44 AM »
Here's a response to my letter of objection to the wildlife commission regarding partnering with HSUS, NCW, and CBD to build a large reward:

"Mr. Pianoman:

Thank you for your email of March 18 to the Fish and Wildlife Commission about the Department of Fish and Wildlife’s news release regarding a reward being offered in the Northeast Washington wolf poaching case.  I’m responding as the person in charge of the department’s Public Affairs and Community Outreach office, which issues news releases for WDFW.

As you know, virtually every management decision regarding wolf recovery in Washington draws strong reactions from the public, and many people and organizations express passionate positions on all sides of every issue.  In this environment, we always carefully evaluate a number of factors before taking specific actions.  In this case, here are some of the most important factors that helped us decide to accept the reward offers of the groups identified in our news release:

 

·         First and foremost, we are committed to doing everything we can do apprehend those responsible for this crime.  State law directs WDFW to enforce natural resource laws in Washington, and we are committed to using all tools at our disposal.

·         All three of the groups who have pledged their financial assistance – Conservation Northwest, the Center for Biological Diversity, and The Humane Society of the United States –approached us in an effort to help us apprehend the person or persons responsible for this crime.  Their pledges helped us offer a much larger reward than we would have been able to do otherwise, so we felt it would greatly enhance our opportunity for success.

·         We have a responsibility to enforce all of the laws that protect Washington’s fish and wildlife species on behalf of all citizens, regardless of their individual political perspectives or the viewpoints of groups to which they belong.

Your email expresses a concern that by accepting these reward offers, the department will be influenced “by those who would seek an end to hunting in Washington.”  With respect, we would strongly disagree with this conclusion. 

Just as we are charged with enforcing natural resource laws, we are also responsible for maximizing recreational hunting opportunities across the state.  We take both responsibilities very seriously, and would never allow our commitment to maintain and expand hunting opportunities to be compromised through the relationships required to offer a reward in a poaching case.  We have a long history of working with people and organizations who agree on some issues and disagree on others, and we consistently strive to serve the best interests of Washington State, its people, and its fish and wildlife resources.

Thank you again for expressing your concerns.  We hope, as you suggest, that our news release proves effective in generating information that will help us identify and prosecute those responsible for this crime.

Sincerely,

Bruce Botka
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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2014, 11:05:17 AM »
About the responce i would expect Pman... Unfortunately I have little faith that standard correspondence will effect much. You have done your due diligence and communicated though "proper channels"... The fact is that what we hunters want is NOT going to happen, and we will get any and all kinds of answers to appease us.  :twocents:
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Re: WDFW Offers Reward for info ................wolf killing
« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2014, 11:06:52 AM »
My take on the response to pmans letter is : They avoided a response to his concerns, they only patted themselves on the back for doing such a wonderful job, they talked out of their progressive rearends because they can't answer any questions with a legit answer. This is typical from any progressive run gubmint.
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