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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #105 on: March 31, 2014, 08:17:38 PM »
99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Human beings had a hand in a very very small amount of those.

The difference is that we have done our damage in the course of a couple hundred years, which is geological time is faster than the blast of an atomic bomb. We are killing off species much faster than the meteor finished off the dinosaurs. And if we don't get the climate change under control, we could speed it up even more.

Human beings are the most vicious extinction even the planet has ever seen.

What makes you think we are having a climate change?  We as humans have only been keeping track of weather for a few hundred years. How do we know what's normal?  Global warming is a total joke!!!!!

Global warming has always been a total joke, thats why they changed it to climate change $$$$$$.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #106 on: March 31, 2014, 08:19:48 PM »
99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Human beings had a hand in a very very small amount of those.

The difference is that we have done our damage in the course of a couple hundred years, which is geological time is faster than the blast of an atomic bomb. We are killing off species much faster than the meteor finished off the dinosaurs. And if we don't get the climate change under control, we could speed it up even more.

Human beings are the most vicious extinction even the planet has ever seen.

What makes you think we are having a climate change?  We as humans have only been keeping track of weather for a few hundred years. How do we know what's normal?  Global warming is a total joke!!!!!

The geologic record is quite clear that the climate has changed, it is also clear that the climate has been warming.  It borders on ignorance to argue against global warming.  What is fair game for discussion is the degree of anthropogenic warming.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #107 on: March 31, 2014, 08:20:23 PM »
99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Human beings had a hand in a very very small amount of those.

The difference is that we have done our damage in the course of a couple hundred years, which is geological time is faster than the blast of an atomic bomb. We are killing off species much faster than the meteor finished off the dinosaurs. And if we don't get the climate change under control, we could speed it up even more.

Human beings are the most vicious extinction even the planet has ever seen.
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/life/dinosaurs-other-extinct-creatures/mass-extinctions/end-permian-mass-extinction/index.html

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #108 on: March 31, 2014, 08:33:30 PM »
99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Human beings had a hand in a very very small amount of those.

The difference is that we have done our damage in the course of a couple hundred years, which is geological time is faster than the blast of an atomic bomb. We are killing off species much faster than the meteor finished off the dinosaurs. And if we don't get the climate change under control, we could speed it up even more.

Human beings are the most vicious extinction even the planet has ever seen.

What makes you think we are having a climate change?  We as humans have only been keeping track of weather for a few hundred years. How do we know what's normal?  Global warming is a total joke!!!!!

The geologic record is quite clear that the climate has changed, it is also clear that the climate has been warming.  It borders on ignorance to argue against global warming.  What is fair game for discussion is the degree of anthropogenic warming.
Since the ice age maybe but before that it was tropical all over.  Its bad science is what it is!
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #109 on: March 31, 2014, 08:34:18 PM »
99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Human beings had a hand in a very very small amount of those.

The difference is that we have done our damage in the course of a couple hundred years, which is geological time is faster than the blast of an atomic bomb. We are killing off species much faster than the meteor finished off the dinosaurs. And if we don't get the climate change under control, we could speed it up even more.

Human beings are the most vicious extinction even the planet has ever seen.

What makes you think we are having a climate change?  We as humans have only been keeping track of weather for a few hundred years. How do we know what's normal?  Global warming is a total joke!!!!!

The geologic record is quite clear that the climate has changed, it is also clear that the climate has been warming.  It borders on ignorance to argue against global warming.  What is fair game for discussion is the degree of anthropogenic warming.

If you want to discuss global warming, why don't you start your own thread? Or would you rather divert the ESA topic?

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #110 on: March 31, 2014, 08:44:00 PM »
That would be directed at your pal jasnt, correct?  Because he was the one who went off topic against climate change.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #111 on: March 31, 2014, 08:48:31 PM »
I dont understand how the grey wolf could even get on the ESA list. Have they forgotten about Canada?  It is part of north America and just cause there is an imaginary line up there doesn't mean diddly to an animal. They could have come down here if they chose. I thought these guys were all for animal rights but it was ok to kidnap them and drop them off in straige lands and say good luck.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #112 on: March 31, 2014, 08:50:23 PM »
Funny how people on here think they know about global warming and spotted owls, and go so far as to say it's "bad science." Sorry but I think I'll believe the science and the scientists over you guys.


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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #113 on: March 31, 2014, 08:51:45 PM »
I dont understand how the grey wolf could even get on the ESA list. Have they forgotten about Canada?  It is part of north America and just cause there is an imaginary line up there doesn't mean diddly to an animal. They could have come down here if they chose. I thought these guys were all for animal rights but it was ok to kidnap them and drop them off in straige lands and say good luck.

http://www.takingliberty.us/TLHome.html
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/wildlands_project_step_by_step.htm
 

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #114 on: March 31, 2014, 08:56:21 PM »
Thanks for the link. Looks like I got lots of home work
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #115 on: March 31, 2014, 09:21:07 PM »
Thanks for the link. Looks like I got lots of home work
Yea...I would do your homework alright.  Any link wolfbait gives you is almost certain to be nothing but a bunch of conspiracy garbage dreamed up by unemployed anti-government dumb@%$# who belong in a locked padded room.  For example, his first link takes you to a page and one of the subjects is conservation easements.  The page tells you how evil they are...what a joke.  Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #116 on: April 01, 2014, 05:40:32 AM »
Thanks for the link. Looks like I got lots of home work
Yea...I would do your homework alright.  Any link wolfbait gives you is almost certain to be nothing but a bunch of conspiracy garbage dreamed up by unemployed anti-government dumb@%$# who belong in a locked padded room.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #117 on: April 01, 2014, 07:40:12 AM »
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Yea...I would do your homework alright.  Any link wolfbait gives you is almost certain to be nothing but a bunch of conspiracy garbage dreamed up by unemployed anti-government dumb@%$# who belong in a locked padded room.  For example, his first link takes you to a page and one of the subjects is conservation easements.  The page tells you how evil they are...what a joke.  Conservation easements are an incredibly useful tool for protecting wildlife habitat while compensating willing land owners.  You've got to be a serious nutjob to see a whole lot of downside to conservation easements if you hunt.  If you are a large real-estate mogul however...they are the devil.

More often than not - the people who lose animals to the wolf end up 'not' getting compensated for the loss. That has been happening from the beginning of this nightmare.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #118 on: April 01, 2014, 07:51:32 AM »
What makes you think we are having a climate change? 

At this point, denying global warming is like denying a round earth or asserting that schizophrenics are possessed by demons. They had to change the name to Climate Change because every time is snows, some retard will invariably chip in "Ha! Where's your global warming now, Al Gore?"

The scientific process has thoroughly vetted the theory and found it scientifically sound. The time where "it's debatable" is rapidly drawing to a close. It won't be too long before denying it will make a person look as stupid as saying the Earth is 6000 years old or that the wind is caused by ghosts.

If you want to educate yourself, here is a good link that debunks all the common Denier arguments and links actual, peer reviewed scientific work.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/


 

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #119 on: April 01, 2014, 08:16:27 AM »
mag·nan·i·mous
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adjective: magnanimous

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    very generous or forgiving, esp. toward a rival or someone less powerful than oneself.
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I'm not going to continue to veer this topic off course into your far left lane but if you are trying to convince us that your version of reality is correct, you may want to try a little harder to live up to your screen name.  Nobody likes to be called the names you are slinging around.
At this point, denying global warming is like denying a round earth or asserting that schizophrenics are possessed by demons. They had to change the name to Climate Change because every time is snows, some retard will invariably chip in "Ha! Where's your global warming now, Al Gore?"

The scientific process has thoroughly vetted the theory and found it scientifically sound. The time where "it's debatable" is rapidly drawing to a close. It won't be too long before denying it will make a person look as stupid as saying the Earth is 6000 years old or that the wind is caused by ghosts.

If you want to educate yourself, here is a good link that debunks all the common Denier arguments and links actual, peer reviewed scientific work.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/

 


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