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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #315 on: April 11, 2014, 03:22:51 PM »
There is an expert on the geology of that area here on this board.  I'm waiting for him to tell us whether the area has a petroleum potential or not, or if it's entirely hard rock.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #316 on: April 11, 2014, 05:33:22 PM »
There is an expert on the geology of that area here on this board.  I'm waiting for him to tell us whether the area has a petroleum potential or not, or if it's entirely hard rock.

FYI - Hard rock does not mean there isn't oil. I worked on a rig in Utah drilling through granite to get to oil.  :twocents:

More about oil in granite: http://www.wnd.com/2005/12/33676/
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #317 on: April 12, 2014, 12:10:19 AM »
http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_lies_fracking_leases_Bundy_ranch.html#

This would hardly be worth lining a bird cage with if it were printed on paper. 

Since when did the BLM begin getting bonuses?  Or pay raises based on income?  If that was the case, I think they would have increased the $1.35/AUM rate quite a while ago.

I fail to see how a fracking lease would require cattle to be removed. 

I love how this is painted as a "save a tortoise" operation, when in reality it's blatant contempt of court order and has been upheld in two different courts.  So much for the theory that the BLM hasn't tried to work this out.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #318 on: April 12, 2014, 12:27:42 AM »
It's hard to say what the real reason is now. We do know the wolf introduction was and is fraud an corruption driven by environmentalists and crooked officials, and I'm sure that sooner or later we will all know the real reason for another fake endangered species.

The one thing WE can count on now is that the fraud of the ESA is being exposed for all to see. :tup: :tup: :tup:


Breaking: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #319 on: April 12, 2014, 08:52:31 AM »
http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_lies_fracking_leases_Bundy_ranch.html#

This would hardly be worth lining a bird cage with if it were printed on paper. 

Since when did the BLM begin getting bonuses?  Or pay raises based on income?  If that was the case, I think they would have increased the $1.35/AUM rate quite a while ago.

I fail to see how a fracking lease would require cattle to be removed. 

I love how this is painted as a "save a tortoise" operation, when in reality it's blatant contempt of court order and has been upheld in two different courts.  So much for the theory that the BLM hasn't tried to work this out.

How many folks would try to "settle" with a deadbeat tenant?

The fracking argument is a joke. Most of the new energy development in this country has been on private land. Republicans have whacked Obama on that for years since he touts new energy development but most has not been done on public land. At least that was the tune a few years ago.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #320 on: April 12, 2014, 09:20:16 AM »
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150323.0.html
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #322 on: April 12, 2014, 10:50:47 AM »
ABC news is reporting that the Bundy family has "won Range War".  Do not bet on that.  The feds have left, and will remain gone until the protesters disperse.  Then they will return in force.  We've all watched this scenario play out too many times.
 
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Nevada Cattle Rancher Wins 'Range War' With Feds
http://abcnews.go.com/US/nevada-cattle-rancher-wins-range-war-federal-government/story?id=23302610

A Nevada cattle rancher appears to have won his week-long battle with the federal government over a controversial cattle roundup that had led to the arrest of several protesters.

Cliven Bundy went head to head with the Bureau of Land Management over the removal of hundreds of his cattle from federal land, where the government said they were grazing illegally.

Bundy claims his herd of roughly 900 cattle have grazed on the land along the riverbed near Bunkerville, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, since 1870 and threatened a "range war" against the BLM on the Bundy Ranch website after one of his sons was arrested while protesting the removal of the cattle.

"I have no contract with the United States government," Bundy said. "I was paying grazing fees for management and that's what BLM was supposed to be, land managers and they were managing my ranch out of business, so I refused to pay."

The federal government had countered that Bundy "owes the American people in excess of $1 million " in unpaid grazing fees and "refuses to abide by the law of land, despite many opportunities over the last 20 years to do so."

However, today the BLM said it would not enforce a court order to remove the cattle and was pulling out of the area.

"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public," BLM Director Neil Kornze said.

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner," he said.

The roundup began April 5, following lengthy court proceedings dating back to 1993, federal officials said. Federal officers began impounding the first lot of cows last weekend, and Bundy responded by inviting supporters onto his land to protest the action.

"It's not about cows, it's about freedom," Utah resident Yonna Winget told ABC News affiliate KTNV in Las Vegas, Nevada.

"People are getting tired of the federal government having unlimited power," Bundy's wife, Carol Bundy told ABC News.

By Sunday, April 6, one of Bundy's sons, Dave Bundy, was taken into custody for refusing to disperse and resisting arrest, while hundreds of other protesters, some venturing from interstate, gathered along the road few miles from Bundy's property in solidarity. Dave Bundy was later released.

A spokesman for the Bundy encampment told ABC News roughly 300 protesters had assembled for the protest, while a BLM representative estimated there were around 100 people.

"We want a peaceful protest, but we also want our voices heard," said Cliven Bundy's sister, Chrisie Marshall Bundy.

But clashes between demonstrators and authorities took a violent turn on Wednesday, with cell phone video showing some being tasered at the site, including Bundy's son, Ammon Bundy. Two other protesters were detained, cited and later released on Thursday, according to the BLM.

As the movement grew by the day, and demonstrators rallied together, bonding by campfires at night, local protest leaders warned people not to wear camouflage and keep their weapons inside their vehicles.

Both sides said the issue is one of fairness, with the federal government maintaining that thousands of other cattle ranchers are abiding by the law by paying their annual grazing fees, while Bundy's family and supporters say the government's actions are threatening ranchers' freedoms.

"It's about the freedom of America," said another of Bundy's sisters, Margaret Houston. "We have to stand up and fight."

ABC News' Alan Farnham contributed to this report.

 
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #323 on: April 12, 2014, 10:59:05 AM »
Are they giving him the cattle back that they've already rounded up?
A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears. ~ Michel de Montaigne

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #325 on: April 12, 2014, 01:31:09 PM »
So much for the fake endangered turtle.

UPDATE: Armed Bundy family leaders meet with BLM officers
LAS VEGAS --  Armed Bundy family leaders are meeting with BLM officers to discuss what will become of the cattle that the feds removed from BLM land, over the past week.

Tensions are running high and I-15 is closed in both directions, about seven miles south of Mesquite, because protesters have blocked the freeway, according to Nevada Highway Patrol.

The protesters have gathered in support of rancher Cliven Bundy, who has been locked in a legal battle over grazing rights with the federal government.

Nearly two dozen police officers and a SWAT unit are on scene.

NHP is advising people to not even try to go to Mesquite from Las Vegas. Troopers have tried to get cars through the area but they are not having much luck.

There have been no overt threats of violence from the protesters.

Follow 8 News NOW on Twitter for real-time updates

The BLM law enforcement officers are in Mesquite as they wait to leave the area. Police are there to help them do that safely.

It was announced Saturday morning that Sheriff Douglas Gillespie, Bundy and the BLM were able to reach an agreement over the cattle the BLM has already removed from the federal property.

The BLM has offered to pay Bundy for the cattle already confiscated, sources say. The protesters say the cattle should be returned to Bundy.

This is a developing story. Please refresh this page for updates.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25231502/breaking-news-protesters-gather-on-i15-causing-traffic-delays-cliven-bundy-blm

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #326 on: April 12, 2014, 01:49:43 PM »
Live feed of the crooked BLM tucking tail.
http://www.ustream.tv/AlexJonesLive

The BLM, like the USFWS are not very well liked by anyone who understands what they are doing to people through their fake endangered species BS.

BREAKING: Feds Back Down In New Bundy Standoff, Agree to Release Cattle
UPDATE (3 PM CST): According to Infowars reporter David Knight, who is on location, the BLM is standing down and will be releasing Cliven Bundy’s cattle shortly. This comes after reports stating that the feds were ready to fire on protesters if they attempted to seize the rancher’s cattle.
Read More @ http://www.infowars.com/breaking-cliven-bundy-to-meet-with-clark-co-sheriff/

The BLM killed 138 cows running them with helicopters, they also shot 2 bulls.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #327 on: April 12, 2014, 01:59:11 PM »
strange that the gov sends in that much force for grazing, but in Benghazi.........

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #328 on: April 12, 2014, 07:53:25 PM »
Federal Land Grab In Nevada To Benefit Chinese Solar Farm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jampV1pa0dk#t=381

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #329 on: April 12, 2014, 09:02:36 PM »
Wait. First you said it was fracking. Now you say it's solar energy. Which is it?
A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears. ~ Michel de Montaigne

 


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