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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #330 on: April 13, 2014, 07:16:01 AM »
BLM's fake endangered turtle is about a land grab for Harry Reid and the Chinese. The USFWS, WDFW's fake endangered wolf will ruin cattle ranching, hunting etc..



REID SMELLING ANYTHING BUT ROSY IN RANCH FIGHT
Desert showdown blows lid off long-standing plans with the Chinese

NEW YORK – When Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy refused to take his cattle off land the federal government demanded for the habitat of an endangered desert tortoise, it focused the nation’s attention on an arena Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., may have preferred to be kept quiet.



An investigative report published last week by Infowars.com drew a connection between Senate Majority Leader Reid’s involvement with Chinese energy giant ENN, Chinese efforts to build massive solar facilities in the Nevada desert and the showdown between Bundy and the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, or BLM.

It wasn’t the first report to notice curious dealings involving the Chinese and America’s top Democrats.

On Jan. 20, 2013, WND warned Chinese government-backed economists were proposing a plan to allow Chinese corporations to set up “development zones” in the United States as part of a plan proposed by the Chinese government to convert into equity the more than $1 trillion in U.S. Treasury debt owned by the Chinese government.

The next day, Jan. 21, 2013, WND documented the Obama administration had begun to allow China to acquire major ownership interests in oil and natural gas resources across the USA.

China grabs oil interests in USA

The first major intrusion of China in the U.S. oil and natural gas market can be traced to the Obama administration decision in October 2009 to allow state-owned Chinese energy giant China Offshore Oil Corporation, or CNOOC, to purchase a multi-million dollar stake in 600,000 acres of South Texas oil and gas fields.

By allowing China to have equity interests in U.S. oil and natural gas production, the Obama administration reversed a policy of the Bush administration that in 2005 blocked China on grounds of national security concerns from a $18.4-billion dollar deal in which China planned to purchase California-based Unocal Corp.

China’s two, giant, state-owned oil companies acquiring oil and natural gas interests in the USA are CNOOC, 100-percent owned by the government of the People’s Republic of China, and Sinopec Group, the largest shareholder of Sinopac Corporation, an investment company owned by the government of the People’s Republic of China, incorporated in China in 1998, largely to acquire and operate oil and natural gas interests worldwide.

On March 6, 2012, the Wall Street Journal compiled a state-by-state list of the $17 billion in oil and natural gas equity interests CNOOC and Sinopec have acquired in the United States since 2010.

Colorado: CNOOC gained a one-third stake in 800,000 acres in northeast Colorado and southwest Wyoming in a $1.27-billion pact with Chesapeake Energy Corporation.
Louisiana: Sinopec has a one-third interest in 265,000 acres in the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale after a broader $2.5-billion deal with Devon Energy.
Michigan: Sinopec gained a one-third interest in 350,000 acres in a larger $2.5-billion deal with Devon Energy.
Ohio: Sinopec acquired a one-third interest in Devon Energy’s 235,000 Utica Shale acres in a larger $2.5-billion deal.
Oklahoma: Sinopec has a one-third interest in 215,000 acres in a broader $2.5-billion deal with Devon Energy.
Texas: CNOOC acquired a one-third interest in Chesapeake Energy’s 600,000 acres in the Eagle Ford Shale in a $2.16-billion deal.
Wyoming: CNOOC has a one-third stake in northeast Colorado and southeast Wyoming after a $1.27-billion pact with Chesapeake Energy. Sinopec gained a one-third interest in Devon Energy’s 320,000 acres as part of a larger $2.5-billion deal.
On March 6, 2012, in a separate story, the Wall Street Journal described that China’s strategy implemented since 2010 by Fu Chengyu, who has served as chairman of both CNOOC and Sinopec, involved the following components: “Seek minority states, play a passive role, and, in a nod to U.S. regulators, keep Chinese personnel at arm’s length from advanced U.S. technology.”

Harry Reid and Chinese solar investments in Nevada

On April 3, 3012, Bloomberg reported Chinese billionaire Wang Yusuo, one of China’s richest citizens and the founder of Chinese energy giant ENN Group, had teamed up with Senate Majority Leader Reid to win incentives including land 113 miles southeast of Las Vegas that ENN sought to buy for $4.5 million, less than one-eighth of the land’s $38.6 million assessed value.

Bloomberg reported ENN intended to create solar energy farms on the Nevada land, despite the nearly 50 percent plunge in solar panel prices globally in the previous 15 months that led to the bankruptcy of solar equipment maker Solyndra LLC, which had received approximately $535 million in U.S. government loan guarantees.

Bloomberg further documented ENN had contributed $40,650 individually and through its political action committee to Sen. Reid over the previous three election cycles.

Subsequently, on Sept. 4, 2012, Breitbart.com reported lawyer Rory Reid, the son of Sen. Reid, had been appointed the primary representative for ENN Energy Group, fronting the bid by the Chinese company to build a $5-billion solar panel plant on a 9,000-acre Clark County desert plot in Laughton, Nevada.

A Reuters report published on Aug. 31, 2012, documented that Reid was recruited by ENN during a 2011 trip he took to China with nine other U.S. senators, supposedly to invite Chinese investment in the United States.

The Senate group accompanying Reid on his 2011 trip to China included six other Democrats and three Republicans: Richard Shelby, R-Ala.; Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.; Dick Durbin, D-Ill.; Mike Enzi, R-Wyo.; Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J.; Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.; Jeff Merkley, D-Ore.; and Michael Bennet, D-Colo.

“A tortoise isn’t the reason why BLM is harassing a 67-year-old rancher,” blogger Dana Loesch wrote last week. “They want his land.”

Loesch pointed out that Reid has been accused by ranchers in Nevada of using the BLM to control Nevada land, over 84 percent of which is already owned by the federal government, and to pay back special interests, including his top donor, Harry Whittemore, who first urged Reid to have the habitat of the desert tortoise moved before he was convicted of violating federal election laws by illegally funneling $150,000 to Reid’s 2007 reelection campaign.

Confirmed by a 71-28 Senate vote on April 9, BLM chief Neil Kornze served as a former senior adviser to Reid before he joined BLM in 2011, serving for the past year as the agency’s principal deputy director, according to a CBS local television news report broadcast in Carson City, Nevada.

In 2012, BLM and the U.S. Department of Energy published a “Final Pragmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States” that Inforwars.com charged established the basis for allowing the endangered desert tortoise to migrate habitats, paving the way to put solar energy development projects on acreage that includes public land at dispute in the Bundy standoff over grazing rights.

Loesch’s analysis of the BLM’s actions was echoed at the Moapa Valley Town board meeting last Wednesday when one of the local citizens rose to give a stirring defense of Cliven Bundy and issue a warning to the BLM.

“They can throw an army of men around there … with sniper rifles on people just like you are, men, women and children … out there, who believe they have a right to be there,” he said.

“Maybe you believe in some other place that you believe you can be. Someday they’re gonna throw that army of men around you. And then somehow they feel like they got the right … they can drop a damn tripod in the ground and set a sniper rifle on it, so if you cross a line, they can put a bullet in you. Who the hell is the man behind that trigger? I wanna know … which one of you guys gives that guy the authority to throw that rifle down? And when he does, which one of us is he going to shoot?”

“Good God, didn’t he grow up in this country? Are we gonna give it up? This is a helluva lot bigger than Clive Bundy.”

The audience erupted in applause as the man concluded his speech.

“And when Clive decides to go back in there after his cows, and they’ve got orders to shoot anyone who goes in there, I’m gonna be with him.”

Someone in the crowd piped up, “Carrying a gun I hope.”

“No, no,” he said, “because them son of a bitches will fire the next shot heard around the world … and we will fire the rest!”

The full speech can be viewed, below.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/reid-smelling-anything-but-rosy-in-ranch-fight/#W89tfyQRcgJMLEAP.99
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #331 on: April 13, 2014, 07:19:49 AM »
From Special T-

Saturday, April 12, 2014

Notes from HJL:

The Bundy Ranch continues to spiral with the BLM not backing down, and the militias are beginning to show up. This escalation of the conflict is not good and will result in bloodshed, unless the federal government backs down. For those who are not sure about what rights are being violated, I've broken it down into several sections here:
First Amendment rights.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Make no mistake, the entire land in question is public land, managed by the BLM. The BLM violates the rights of the U.S. citizens when it tries to create “no free speech zones” by cordoning off sections of the land for people to express their First Amendment rights. Not only the highway but also the the land itself (managed by the BLM) is public. As stated yesterday, there already exists a zone for people to express their First Amendment rights– it's called the United States of America. It is completely repugnant for the BLM to attempt to restrict those rights, and it suggests that the true intent of their actions and possibly the actions themselves are shameful. Today, we have unconfirmed reports that the cell towers that serve the Bundy's ranch have been shut down, suggesting that the law enforcement are intent on hiding their own actions. We have already seen the near riot that ensued when BLM officers with dogs, drawn tasers and slung AR-15s/M16s were confronted by protestors armed only with wagging fingers and cell phone cameras. The BLM engaged with escalated violence first, and then reported to the mainstream media that their dog was kicked and the protestors had to be tased to be controlled. Watch yesterday's video again and see for yourself if their claims hold true. The dog was clearly released on the person who then kicked it. The officers tased a person who was only armed with a wagging finger. For this reason, they want a communications blackout to perpetuate their skewed and false narrative.
Prior usage rights.
The southwest states of the United States of America have a long tradition of recognizing “prior usage rights”. There are land grants that trace their history clear back to the 1600s. Water rights are similarly recognized based upon when the water was first used for agricultural usage. Cliven Bundy's family's grazing rights can be traced back 150 years to the formation and recognition of the State of Nevada in 1864. The BLM was formed in 1946. It is clear that the Bundys have prior usage rights that predate even the formation of the BLM. If you include the predecessor of the BLM– The General Land Office (GLO), which was formed in 1812, their formation could be considered to predate the Bundy's usage, but the fact that the land was continually grazed for over 150 years shows that the GLO and the subsequent BLM not only allowed but agreed to the land usage by the Bundy family. The courts have erred in their rulings over these usage rights and have either set a dangerous precedent or followed in the footsteps of decisions that overstep moral and ethical boundaries regarding eminent domain. This dangerous trend is becoming the powder keg that we see being worked out in this case. The fact that multiple branches of the federal government have ruled against what should be standard law simply shows that they are either colluding or ignorant. The rulings by the judges are a prime example of progressive judges creating law, rather than interpreting law.
Open range laws.
Under open range laws, if you don't want cattle grazing on your land, it is your responsibility to fence them out. By requiring the rancher to fence his own cattle out of the BLM land, they are placing unfair, unprecedented, and unlawful burden on the rancher. It is the responsibility of the BLM to erect fences around property they don't want grazed.
Moral and ethical issues.
Morals are what we do; ethics are what we ought to do. In this case, the Bundys have chosen to press for their rights rather than knuckle under the heavy-handed tactics of the federal government. No tortoise nor any cow is worth the loss of human life, yet that is where this is headed if the federal government does not back down. There is suspicion that the contractors who have been brought in to remove the cows are killing many of them (whether by accident or design). There is suspicion that some wearing the BLM uniform are not duly sworn law enforcement officers.
Escalation of conflict.
So far, the conflict has been between the Bundy ranch, neighbors, a few friends and the BLM. As this drags on, the conflict will escalate with militia and others from across the country getting involved. The emotions will run higher. The thin line between anger and action will be narrowed, and at some point either a law enforcement officer who feels threatened or a protester who is being unfairly attacked will pull their firearm, and it will escalate into bloodshed. The longer the conflict runs, the greater the chance of this escalation occurring. The governor has already weighed in verbally in support of the Bundys. Where is Harry Reid?
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #332 on: April 13, 2014, 07:27:16 AM »
This is a strange argument coming from the same folks on here that vehemently oppose food stamps and welfare. 
I guess we should only give ranchers something for nothing....  :rolleyes:

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #333 on: April 13, 2014, 07:41:15 AM »
This is a strange argument coming from the same folks on here that vehemently oppose food stamps and welfare. 
I guess we should only give ranchers something for nothing....  :rolleyes:

I can't speak for the others but my opposition to the BLM actions is based on refusing ranchers to graze, livlihoods depend on grazing, what happened to all the other Nevada ranchers pushed out of business? Bundy has tried to pay the county, who apparently now owns grazing rights, it's not like he is a deadbeat, he has offered to pay, the county refused the money.

I think it's a good thing this happened so that agency policies get a much closer look.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #334 on: April 13, 2014, 07:57:32 AM »
This is a strange argument coming from the same folks on here that vehemently oppose food stamps and welfare. 
I guess we should only give ranchers something for nothing....  :rolleyes:

If you think this is the same as sitting on your fat butt collecting welfare and food stamps, then you should spend a few days on a ranch participating in the chores..............

Its about way more than the Bundy part of the story.......connect the dots.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #335 on: April 13, 2014, 08:08:58 AM »
Bundy has tried to pay the county, who apparently now owns grazing rights, it's not like he is a deadbeat, he has offered to pay, the county refused the money.

I don't think Clark County has anything to do with the grazing rights, it is still all the BLM.  Clark county refused to insert themselves into this for anything more than sound bites by their politicians. 

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #336 on: April 13, 2014, 08:54:17 AM »
Bundy has tried to pay the county, who apparently now owns grazing rights, it's not like he is a deadbeat, he has offered to pay, the county refused the money.

I don't think Clark County has anything to do with the grazing rights, it is still all the BLM.  Clark county refused to insert themselves into this for anything more than sound bites by their politicians.

There are conflicting reports, another reason this whole affair needs thorough investigation. On one hand we can't allow deadbeats to cheat the system, on another hand there seems to be more to this story.

A supposedly endangered tortoise used as the reason to get rid of grazing yet oil drilling and wind farms are planned. 52 other ranchers eliminated from business. Reports of offers made to buy out Bundy for the resources on his ranch. Yes, there certainly seems to be more to this story.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #337 on: April 13, 2014, 01:46:37 PM »


A supposedly endangered tortoise used as the reason to get rid of grazing yet oil drilling and wind farms are planned. 52 other ranchers eliminated from business. Reports of offers made to buy out Bundy for the resources on his ranch. Yes, there certainly seems to be more to this story.



I agree. This raises alot of questions!
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #338 on: April 13, 2014, 08:25:28 PM »


A supposedly endangered tortoise used as the reason to get rid of grazing yet oil drilling and wind farms are planned. 52 other ranchers eliminated from business. Reports of offers made to buy out Bundy for the resources on his ranch. Yes, there certainly seems to be more to this story.



I agree. This raises alot of questions!

Kind of like the USFWS releasing wolves into the lower 48 and claiming they were endangered, when they were not, at least not the wolves they released. Then each states that their wolves show up in have to have so many wolves. Yep it does raise a few questions.

Look at WDFW and their thirty year ESA plan, and wonder what WA's wildlife will look like in another ten years? Let alone thirty with their management practices of protecting predators.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #339 on: April 13, 2014, 08:28:50 PM »


A supposedly endangered tortoise used as the reason to get rid of grazing yet oil drilling and wind farms are planned. 52 other ranchers eliminated from business. Reports of offers made to buy out Bundy for the resources on his ranch. Yes, there certainly seems to be more to this story.



I agree. This raises alot of questions!

Kind of like the USFWS releasing wolves into the lower 48 and claiming they were endangered, when they were not, at least not the wolves they released. Then each states that their wolves show up in have to have so many wolves. Yep it does raise a few questions.

Look at WDFW and their thirty year ESA plan, and wonder what WA's wildlife will look like in another ten years? Let alone thirty with their management practices of protecting predators.
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #340 on: April 14, 2014, 11:17:00 AM »
Federal Land Grab In Nevada To Benefit Chinese Solar Farm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jampV1pa0dk#t=381

Of note...

"Reid and his son, Rory, were both deeply involved in a deal with the Chinese-owned ENN Energy Group to build a $5 billion solar farm in Laughlin, Nevada. But that is roughly 177 miles away from Bundy’s 150-acre ranch in Bunkerville, Nev., and 213 miles from the federally owned Gold Butte area where Bundy ‘s cattle graze, according to Google Maps.

It’s worth noting that Rory Reid is the former chair of the Clark County commission (Clark County is located near the Gold Butte area). He left in 2011 to work for a Las Vega law firm representing ENN.

But despite the Reids’ best attempts to secure the land for ENN, and despite the Bureau of Land Management expressing concerns that “trespass cattle” could complicate plans to use land in the Gold Butte area for “offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development,” it was all in vain: The Chinese company eventually shelved the project in June 2013 when it failed to find a customer. The deal is over and the proposed construction will not happen."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/13/is-harry-reid-involved-seven-answers-to-seven-questions-youre-probably-asking-right-now-about-the-nevada-rancher-situation/

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #341 on: April 14, 2014, 08:17:40 PM »
The Fish in California,Spotted Owl in WA and OR, the USFWS wolves that weren't endanger either and now the fake endangered turtle in Nevada.

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #342 on: April 14, 2014, 09:26:23 PM »
Don't forget the Salmon!! :chuckle:
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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #343 on: April 16, 2014, 12:11:48 PM »
BREAKING: Harry Reid & China Behind Nevada Land Grab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHL_n1s8QA4

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Re: The Green Scam of “Endangered Species”
« Reply #344 on: April 16, 2014, 12:47:15 PM »
This is very interesting if it's true. We've always known that Harry Reid a huge windbag. Hopefully, he can be caught in a scheme tied to this incident. I hope it's not just the ravings of some idiots.
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