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Shoot or No Shot?
« on: March 27, 2014, 09:40:11 AM »
35 yards. You're in a natural ground blind at the edge of this meadow right at the bull's 6 oclock (you are straight back from the "." in 6.85 on the bottom of the pic. He walked out from your right and stopped where he currently stands to listen to another bull bugle up on the hillside at the bull's 3 oclock.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 09:43:20 AM »
Bow/Rifle/Muzzy?

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 09:47:42 AM »
Bow/Rifle/Muzzy?

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 09:53:04 AM »
Archery I would have to wait. I'm not good enough to thread it and get both lungs. I'd be at draw and maybe give a mew so he turns more to look back.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 09:55:51 AM »
Given his body language and his interest in the other bugling bull, I wait at full draw until he turns to face that other bull, thus giving me a much better shot. If i was a betting man, I would think with a pretty high percentage, that he turns and does exactly what I am suggesting in the next few frames.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 10:02:49 AM »
Low percentage shot. Wait for him to turn. He will.
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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 10:20:32 AM »
Looks like a pretty nice quartering away shot to me. Launch it at the rib cage right in front of the hind quarter. 35 yards no problem. 40+ I would wait for a broadside. Flame away.
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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 10:47:09 AM »
Looks like a pretty nice quartering away shot to me. Launch it at the rib cage right in front of the hind quarter. 35 yards no problem. 40+ I would wait for a braodside. Flame away.
that should be a dead elk... but the possibility is there for a single lung hit. But you'd get guts and liver amd a lung... that means dead elk but wait 4-6 hours to Track. Possibility of a heart shot too which means dead faster.
At the same time I am thinking that a elk stomach acts much like a straw bail when full... might hinder penetration.
This is a tough call... I have nothing against a guy who takes that shot but not sure what I would do... chances are he would turn right or let and offer a shot... but I'm the type of person who takes the very first shot opportunity.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 10:52:31 AM »
 :yeah: I am a first shop opportunity kind of guy.

If it was only 35... he'd be bleeding.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 11:25:19 AM »
if your arrow can shoot clean through a bale of hay at 35 yards, go for it!
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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 01:15:21 PM »
I say no shot.  One step during Flight and you got a hind quarter.  He's preoccupied so have patience and your shot will present itself.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 01:29:42 PM »
No shot,  too great a risk for the loss of a quality animal.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 03:32:49 PM »
Shoot....35 yards on a quartering animal is a high percentage shot.  Matter of fact I would rather a quartering away shot than a quartering to shot.  No guts involved.....at a minimum a double lung....and likely liver lung and possible even heart / major vessel. 


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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2014, 03:47:12 PM »
that would be a dead elk. right between the last rib and the hip lowest third.

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Re: Shoot or No Shot?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2014, 03:51:45 PM »
I've killed 2 deer that presented that shot. Both stumbled and were down within seconds. Sure elk is different, but also bigger target.

A well-placed arrow wrecks that bulls vitals. Narrower window than broadside, yes. Rather have a slightly different shot, yes. Take that one at 35 if that was it, yes.
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