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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2014, 03:44:40 PM »
I'll watching and waiting! Those heads look sweet!

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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2014, 03:52:14 PM »
I love seeing all these bowhunters excited about these new heads.  :tup:   Rad has spent countless hours dealing with alot of crazy stuff to finally start to see a finish line.  Unless they mess up again.  :chuckle:   Hope to see alot of you guys putting some critters down with these heads.  To be honest I won't shoot another one PERIOD.   :tup:  Lets get a hunt wa special going RAD.  :IBCOOL:
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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2014, 04:23:25 PM »
I do believe the TiCon has my eye.................. :tup:

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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2014, 04:37:03 PM »
What models come in an 85 grain option?

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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2014, 04:40:39 PM »
Is your profile picture a coyote with an arrow in its head?
Yes went through the back of his head and out between his eye.
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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2014, 05:01:26 PM »
What models come in an 85 grain option?

There will be two 85 grain options.  Both will have a 1" cutting diameter and vented blades.  They will be available in the Madman series and the TripleSec. series.

I don't recommend 85 grain heads for very many users.  Need awful short arrows or extremely light arrows to get the FOC correct.  Although these things fly so nice with their compact profile you can get away with using Blazer X2 or AAE pro Max vanes and not be under fletched.  That will save a little bit in the FOC issue.
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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2014, 05:19:34 PM »
Look good to me.

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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2014, 05:29:11 PM »
Look good to me.

That TripleSec is just flat out unreal!  Same basic profile as Del and Whackmasters signature series, but aluminum and stainless instead of one piece titanium.  TripleSec comes from Triple Security - (1) blades lock under the collar, (2) under the point, and (3) in the center using a Savora style foot.  Dang difficult head to manufacture and assemble, but once it makes it into a package it's the easiest, most secure and simplest blade assembly one could imagine.  It's quickly becoming a favorite of mine among those ferrules that share the common blades.
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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2014, 05:32:39 PM »
Im looking forward to ordering some of these...You gonna make some carp fishing rigs too?
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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2014, 05:36:24 PM »
Im looking forward to ordering some of these...You gonna make some carp fishing rigs too?

We have some ideas, but we are going to take a little time off from the chaos before coming out with a salad shooter.
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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2014, 05:59:00 PM »
BH 45 Likes the looks of the Madman ...sweeeeet .. I being having some of those ...hopefully they will replace my WASP  :yike: :dunno: :chuckle:

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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2014, 06:58:57 PM »
BH 45 Likes the looks of the Madman ...sweeeeet .. I being having some of those ...hopefully they will replace my WASP  :yike: :dunno: :chuckle:

It's sort of odd how we progressed in this design.  Most at the ATA show thought we had used the WASP as the base for our design.  But that really was not the case.  I did not want to design a head myself and then tell "Del" to put his name on it.  I really wanted "Del" to tell me everything he wanted in a broadhead and I would put a unique spin and Savora touch to it.  As many know Del had been a Muzzy staffer for many years.  The last few years with Muzzy he used the MX-75.  Del wanted the same cutting diameter and blade angles of the MX-75 plus thicker sharper blades, 100 grains, a slightly longer point that aligned with the blades, titanium ferrule and super easy blade replacement.  It was also a must that we machined it with a lot more precision than the often roughly produced Muzzy.

Our first design was so expensive to build we knew we could not offer it as a production head.  And that design did not lend itself to more economically priced non-titanium versions.  So we concentrated on the Savora center locking system first and went from there.  We could not use the typical Savora spring and foot with these short steep blades unless we locked the tip of the blade under a point.  But the process for doing that in a solid one piece titanium ferrule was too time consuming and expensive.  So we made the foot smaller, replaced the spring with a solid stationary pin and scalloped the ferrule so we could easily place the pin in exactly the right position.

Once we had the locking system, ferrule length and blade configuration completed for the titanium head we then started work on the aluminum version.  When I anodized the first one black and got it assembled we both said, "Dang, that looks a lot like a WASP :chuckle:"  So instead of change everything once again, we embraced the similarities and applied the same "Tuck Under" blade tip instead of the industry standard 45 degree taper.  I'm glad we did as it makes a much stronger nicer end product and the blades still work with the one piece titanium ferrule.

So a project that started as a way to improve upon the Muzzy MX-75 ended up being, by complete accident, an improved WASP with a Savora twist. 

We felt the TripleSec was still going to be a little too expensive for the majority of bowhunters.  And since we were going to get blamed as copy cats anyway we made a non-scalloped price conscious version without the center locking pin.  While the special point shape and the thicker blades on the MadMan make it unique it still ended up costing us more money to produce than we had originally guessed.  I really wanted it to be dirt cheap for the bowhunter on a budget, but we missed that target by a little bit. Most dealers should still be able to sell it for a little less than the WASP and a good bit less than the Muzzy.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 08:27:01 PM by RadSav »
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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2014, 07:09:22 PM »
There is no cheap way to machine titanium!

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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2014, 07:13:48 PM »
I can see why Radsav ...when I look at all the broadheads you have up The Madman instantly got my attention ..it looks just like the Wasp Boss ...If it was black you may have fooled me  :chuckle: I like the low profile blades ...They just penetrate bone better ...I am really looking forward to getting some from you ... :tup: :tup: Some want those bigger blades but in my opinion I will take the smaller blades any day ..if they are sharp and you hit them right its lights out .. NOW WHAT IS THE COST FOR 6 ...? :chuckle:

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Re: SAVORA Broadheads thanks RADSAV
« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2014, 07:34:41 PM »
I can see why Radsav ...when I look at all the broadheads you have up The Madman instantly got my attention ..it looks just like the Wasp Boss ...If it was black you may have fooled me  :chuckle: I like the low profile blades ...They just penetrate bone better ...I am really looking forward to getting some from you ... :tup: :tup: Some want those bigger blades but in my opinion I will take the smaller blades any day ..if they are sharp and you hit them right its lights out .. NOW WHAT IS THE COST FOR 6 ...? :chuckle:

Unlike the WASP Boss you have the option of low profile solid blades (Whackmaster's configuration) or the high profile 1 3/16" version (Del's configuration) in addition to the low profile vented version.  Configuration is closer to the WASP Bullet than the WASP Boss.

With marketing requirements the 6 pack is about a thing of the past.  And while I really wanted a six pack that sold for $19.95 those days are gone too :'(  Here is what we have listed as MAP on three packs;

Titanium Signature = $53.99
Ti-Con = $53.99
TripleSec = $39.99
MadMan = $32.99
9/PK replacement blades = $12.99

We are currently working on a couple additional products that will hopefully reach that $18-20.00 three pack MAP price.  I'm also working with a few local dealers that will help us offer an introductory Hunt-Washington special getting these to members at a down and dirty price! RAD, Inc. is a wholesale manufacture so we are unable to sell direct at this time.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 08:24:05 PM by RadSav »
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