300rum or 300wsm

[rb2506]

I shoot a rum with a brake and love it. Loud yes but you should always use hearing protection. The rum has yet to let me down.

[BULLBLASTER]

300 rum with 215 berger hybrid for me. Its been devastating on elk and bears for me.

[Biggerhammer]

300 rum with 215 berger hybrid for me. Its been devastating on elk and bears for me.

I have friends that swear by the 215's for flat outright killing stuff.👍

[mountainman]

The 300 Ultra beats all the other 30 cal's out there. I have never had an issue withe the recoil w/o the break, but I shoot alots of 'big' guns. The edge beats them all as a hunting round and hits hard out at loner then 500 yard ranges!

[Easy-E]

Just curious what distances you guys are shooting groups at when you start load development for the 300 RUM? Any issues with tight groups at 100 yards? Or are you shooting longer distances from the start?

[mountainman]

I usually start at 100 yards, then work the 300 yards backstop as a baseline for gauging accuracy for load development. Its a more accurate indicator of what a given load will do with longer bullets, due to them "falling to sleep", or in layman terms, smoothing out and stabilizing..

[Bob33]

All of the modern .30 calibers have enough energy to cleanly kill deer at 500 yards. A 300 RUM will work; so will a .308.

The advantages of flatter trajectories were more valuable 20 years ago before the advent of laser rangefinders. If you weren't sure if the deer was 300 or 350 yards a flatter shooting caliber was a great advantage.

With a laser rangefinder today, you know the distance and can know the drop to within an inch or two. Whether the bullet drops 10 inches or 20 inches, you can aim accordingly.

If the 300 RUM gives you more confidence, then that's of some value but the deer will be just as dead with another .30 caliber.

[Biggerhammer]

Just curious what distances you guys are shooting groups at when you start load development for the 300 RUM? Any issues with tight groups at 100 yards? Or are you shooting longer distances from the start?

I start at 300 yards or further for the long range stuff, especially with the VLD bullets. 100 yards is a waste of time,  powder and bullets. One learns that fairly quickly. If your shooting 1/4 MOA at 300 yards with a load. You can be assured you have 100 & 200 yards covered for a long range varmint and big game rig.

[Bofire]

  300 wm has 7-10% more powder capacity than 300wsm, has won numerous 1000 yard competitions. Proven cartridge. Go with the real 300, 300 WM
I been using one for 40 years, my 2.
Carl

[mountainman]

Bob, that statement is so true, if we are compering same bullet at the same angles (broadside shots) where the bigger magnums come into play, again with a slight trajectory advantage, is on those long range angle or raking shots. Whether the deer quartering away or quartering to you, the higher velecity, givin the same controlled expansion bullet, will always penetrate deeper. Sometime the difference between shoot or no shoot, or for those that dont know any better, a wounded animal and a long bloodtrail..

[yorketransport]

All of the modern .30 calibers have enough energy to cleanly kill deer at 500 yards. A 300 RUM will work; so will a .308.

The advantages of flatter trajectories were more valuable 20 years ago before the advent of laser rangefinders. If you weren't sure if the deer was 300 or 350 yards a flatter shooting caliber was a great advantage.

With a laser rangefinder today, you know the distance and can know the drop to within an inch or two. Whether the bullet drops 10 inches or 20 inches, you can aim accordingly.

If the 300 RUM gives you more confidence, then that's of some value but the deer will be just as dead with another .30 caliber.

  I'm partial to the 300 WSM and I don't think that the RUM is really a significant improvement. All you really gain with the RUM is recoil, blast, and a velocity/time of flight advantage. With the use of rangefinders, BDC turrets and reticles, and better bullets, the added point blank range just isn't as important any more. It's the same bullet, same diameter, and the same performance at any given velocity. At the ranges you're considering the 300 WSM (or standard Win Mag) will still flatten any deer.

I've played a lot with the 300 WSM out of different guns ranging from handguns to rifles in both sporting and target configurations and I've never been disappointed. The I've played with the RUM less, but still a fair bit in both handguns and rifles. Honestly if I were you, I would bypass the 30 caliber mags all together. I don't think that they offer a significant advantage over your 270s on deer sized game. The next step up for me would be into the 338 class.

Andrew

[Bob33]

Chris Kyle, a former Navy sniper has the most confirmed kills of any sniper in American history.

His primary weapon was a 300 Win Mag. He had several kills in excess of 1200 yards.  It seemed to work pretty well for him.

SI: You’re obviously known for your skill with a rifle. What was your primary rifle in the service?

CK: My favorite was a .300 Win. Mag. rifle with an Accuracy International stock. It was a Crane-designed rifle that handled real well and delivered superior accuracy over standard-issue rifles.

SI: How did you determine what rifle to take on a mission?

CK: We’d look at overhead imagery before mission and estimate what was the longest possible shot we might have to take. Beyond 1,000 yards, I’d take the .300 Win. Mag. 7.62 NATO just doesn’t have the range or punch at those really long distances. The .300 Win. Mag. also worked just fine on closer targets—it put them down faster than the 7.62 NATO could.

[Biggerhammer]

The .300 Winchesters a daisy.😘

[rtspring]

RUM! Hands down!!  I have had one for 9 years!  Out of the box it is deadly at ranges most shooters can't handle.   I shoot every big game animal with mine and not one has taken a step after being shot.

Get a RUM, then get a brake installed and shoot factory Level III Scirocco's.   has worked every time for me!  It is the best all around rifle I have ever owned!!!! By far!!!

Buy one and you wont ever need another rifle!!!!

[ICEMAN]

Why do you guys keep recommending the brakes? They kick, but not that darned hard!