Inheriting Bonus Points

[huntnphool]

 After a good debate has been going on in the "selling permit points" thread, I thought a poll would be interesting.

 The poll is only addressing leaving bonus points as inheritance to "one", pre determined family member, in the event of the bonus point holders death.

"Not transfering or selling them!"

[vandeman17]

I voted FOR but only if they couldn't be used in quality categories or OIL categories. If they can be used in anything then I would be firmly against

[blacktail378]

      I think this would be a great idea. the family member could only use the pts. for the species they were acquired for. In the event they had already drawn a OIL tag, you could have an alternate to give the points to.   

[huntnphool]

 I would like to see all my points, that have accumulated at the time of my death, go to one of my kids, as they know well how much of a dream drawing one of those hunts is to me.

elkfins spells it out very well!

What a great gift and potential lasting memory to leave for your child after you're gone.

[Curly]

I don't like the idea.  I especially don't like it since a lot of the points people have were never even earned; they were just given to them because Dave Ware was too lazy to do the right thing and ask all point holders what category they wanted their points to be placed.  If it wasn't for that little detail, I might go along with the idea.

[huntnphool]

I don't like the idea.  I especially don't like it since a lot of the points people have were never even earned; they were just given to them because Dave Ware was too lazy to do the right thing and ask all point holders what category they wanted their points to be placed.  If it wasn't for that little detail, I might go along with the idea.

You were only given equal points in "lesser" hunts, they were not given across the board.

 In other words, someone with 10 quality deer points did not receive 10 points in quality elk, 10 points in moose, 10 points in goats etc.

[gallion_t]

I voted FOR, but I feel there would have to be restrictions, especially with OIL tags. First off I would think would have to limit it to one inheritance per person. So you could only get it from your Mom or your Dad, not both.

Im not sure how you could prevent people from just buying points for their parents to increase the number they would inherit. I don't think it would be as big of an issue with deer and elk tags as you have to also buy the tag to get the point so you're into it $50+ per year just for a point. However with the OIL tags you can just buy the point for $13, not a big deal.

Basically I like the idea of not having a parents points go to waste. Most parents would rather see their kid get the trophy animal than themselves and I think it would be a great memory for a lot of people. However I don't see how you could prevent people from taking advantage of the system. 

[kentrek]

Id back this as long point creep was minimized, prolly not a problem for awhile but eventually it would happen

Make folks pick certain categories like idaho an limit peoples options...

Add more tags !!!!!!!! spread people out !!! have a five year wait after drawing quality....

[huntnphool]

Id back this as long point creep was minimized, prolly not a problem for awhile but eventually it would happen

Make folks pick certain categories like idaho an limit peoples options...

Add more tags !!!!!!!! spread people out !!! have a five year wait after drawing quality....

Why couldn't WDFW contact the pre determined family member and say "your father had desiganted you the benificiary of his bonus points. You get to choose one set of points that he accumulated from any of the species he has points for."

[jackmaster]

definatly for, i would love to see my points go to my baby girl in the event of my kickn the can ...

[Curly]

I don't like the idea.  I especially don't like it since a lot of the points people have were never even earned; they were just given to them because Dave Ware was too lazy to do the right thing and ask all point holders what category they wanted their points to be placed.  If it wasn't for that little detail, I might go along with the idea.

You were only given equal points in "lesser" hunts, they were not given across the board.

 In other words, someone with 10 quality deer points did not receive 10 points in quality elk, 10 points in moose, 10 points in goats etc.

Obviously they weren't given cross species.  Prior to the new system there was no such thing as "quality" points.

If a guy had 10 deer points, he was given 10 points in every deer permit category.  (Doe, second deer, quality, buck, senior, disabled, etc.)  So that 10 points became 60 or more. 

Is your poll only talking about inheriting quality category points? 

[huntandjeep]

I voted against. How would this be fair to the kids who grow up with non hunting parents like myself? Would I like my daughters to be able to have a chance at OIL tags if they decide they want to hunt sure but would I feel good about giving them MY points no. Nobody gave me mine I earned them or bought them however you see it.

[billythekidrock]

I voted against even though I would consider some of the options lists above. I don't like the idea of someone that hasn't participated getting a quality permit over someone who has applied for years.

As it is now, youth points disappear. Why not make them carry over? Why not add them to the other points in the same category?

[BULLBLASTER]

I think that if we as hunters were to put any effort into the current point system it should be strictly to abolish it...

[idahohuntr]

Absolutely against any kind of transfer, sale, exchange of points and all of the abuses that would come with any such plan.  If folks want to propose a way to provide tags or hunt opportunities for the terminally ill, disabled veterans, or any other well deserving individuals I am all ears.  If you want to pass the hunting heritage on to your kids, you don't need points and application fee money and a table of draw odds to do so...take your kids hunting while you are in good health...even if its just a boring ol' OTC public land hunt.    I view limited quota hunts as a special OPPORTUNITY, not a government ENTITLEMENT.  You stock up 30 points and still never get drawn before you die or can't hunt anymore...sorry, there are no guarantees in life and nobody should feel they are owed/entitled to a premier limited quota tag or that their heirs are due something for old dads commitment to the application system. 

This topic was mentioned at a GMAC meeting a few months ago...I can't recall an idea ever getting squashed so quickly in my life!