Inheriting Bonus Points

[BULLBLASTER]

Our system is already screwed beyond belief.   Best option...NO POINTS    I don't think we need to make it more messed up.

I dont look at it as buying a point anyways... I am buying my entry into that particular draw... in wa at least... I do buy points in other states...

[pianoman9701]

This would be a nightmare to administer. I voted against.

[Jonathan_S]

This would be a nightmare to administer. I voted against.

Same here

[bobcat]

I have a house with a mortgage.  It would be nice if the bank forgave the remainder of the mortgage when I died so my son could get the house without any debt.  Should I suggest this to my banker?

Such a noble idea- how could your bank not agree to do that for your son?   

[Jonathan_S]

My idea of the cash out option would reduce your odds initially, but would increase your odds exponentially in the following years for drawing a permit

Your idea, like other ponzi schemes, would be great for people who got in at the base level (e.g., those with 17 points in multiple categories right now).  Most of the highest quality tags would go to those guys which means everyone else putting in for the really high quality tags would have significantly reduced odds and they too would have to build points in many categories for several decades and wait until they became a senior to "cash in" so they too could draw. 

Do you folks who believe you are entitled to a permit and thus we need to change the system to give you (or your heirs) significantly better odds make these same arguments to the State Lottery Office?  I mean, I know guys who have been buying lottery tickets for 30+ years and they still haven't hit the jackpot...it'd be nice if the state would at least let them cash-out and get their money back with interest if they don't win before they die  

I agree with IDHunter, whaddya know 

[kentrek]

I have a house with a mortgage.  It would be nice if the bank forgave the remainder of the mortgage when I died so my son could get the house without any debt.  Should I suggest this to my banker?

Such a noble idea- how could your bank not agree to do that for your son?   

If you had pile of money left over wouldnt you think it odd if the bank didnt allow you to give it to your son ?? That your money just disappears because its unfair to other kids

Looks as if we do all agree  that we could kill the point system,id rather there be less special permit areas to help spread hunters out...make hunting zones similar to idaho...manage people and the elk...not money

Save special permits for the elderly & the youth & veterans so we can still achieve what some of us have been discussing in the last couple days

[Bullkllr]

Do you folks who believe you are entitled to a permit and thus we need to change the system to give you (or your heirs) significantly better odds make these same arguments to the State Lottery Office?  I mean, I know guys who have been buying lottery tickets for 30+ years and they still haven't hit the jackpot...it'd be nice if the state would at least let them cash-out and get their money back with interest if they don't win before they die  

Can't help but strongly agree with this.

The only change to this system that even makes sense is to A) ditch all the different categories for each species or B) ditch all points and go back to the way it used to be. Any more complication is just shifting odds meaninglessly from one applicant to another.

It really wasn't so bad back before points. Everyone had equal chance. If you wanted to put in for a cow elk tag you had to start hunting like 3 days after the opener in the general season. Some guys got lucky and drew all the time, some went years being blanked... kinda like it is now only way less complicated and waaaay less 'itching IMHO.

[JLS]

Our system is already screwed beyond belief.   Best option...NO POINTS    I don't think we need to make it more messed up.

I couldn't agree more. 

[Bob33]

Two million dollars a year in application fee revenues, and my nickel say that's not going to happen.

[bobcat]

Here's an idea to improve drawing odds- let's get rid of the Internet. 

I think this would decrease the number of applicants greatly, because many people won't apply unless they get help from nice people on the internet.

[JLS]

Here's an idea to improve drawing odds- let's get rid of the Internet. 

Al Gore just called and said that ain't happenin'

[Skillet]

If you had pile of money left over wouldnt you think it odd if the bank didnt allow you to give it to your son ?? That your money just disappears because its unfair to other kids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estate_tax_in_the_United_States

Some of it does just disappear.

If someone has put in for draws for years then I can see why they have a sense of entitlement to the points as if they own something.  But the points aren't owned - they're not anything, actually.  They are just a record of the number of times you've struck out and in spite of the original intent of the system, accruing more points does not guarantee you an increased chance of drawing next year.  Another accrued point just reduces your chances less than the guy with fewer strikeouts to his name.

[kentrek]

Two million dollars a year in application fee revenues, and my nickel say that's not going to happen.

Which is why everyone should sign uc wardens partition an lets get some folks that actually want to manage for the best interest of the people...an not whats best for the states pocket

[arees]

I have a house with a mortgage.  It would be nice if the bank forgave the remainder of the mortgage when I died so my son could get the house without any debt.  Should I suggest this to my banker?

Such a noble idea- how could your bank not agree to do that for your son?   

If you had pile of money left over wouldnt you think it odd if the bank didnt allow you to give it to your son ?? That your money just disappears because its unfair to other kids

But I don't have a pile of money.  I have a pile of losing lottery tickets.  Can I pay off my mortgage with those?

I'm pretty sure that WDFW doesn't come take any animals back that you have already shot.  They just don't give you anything for your losing permit applications.

[fair-chase]

Two million dollars a year in application fee revenues, and my nickel say that's not going to happen.

Is that all??? After administrative costs and contracting an agency to run the draw(s), I can't imagine much of a profit from 2 million. But that's not really the point. The WDFW should be generating revenue by (A) recruiting new hunters and fishermen, and (B) attracting non-residents to recreate in Washington. As far as I can tell it is doing neither.