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Offline Bigshooter

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Re: Inheriting Bonus Points
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2014, 10:48:40 AM »
The state has to make money to run the game department.  So the point system will never go away.  Does anyone know how much money it costs to run the game department per year.  I know I read that WY is close to $80 million every year.
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Re: Inheriting Bonus Points
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2014, 11:11:40 AM »
I voted FOR. You paid for those points like anything else in life, and they are in your name, therefore they should be recognized for what they are, your personal property to be disposed of as  you wish.

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Re: Inheriting Bonus Points
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2014, 04:28:11 PM »
Two million dollars a year in application fee revenues, and my nickel say that's not going to happen.

Is that all??? After administrative costs and contracting an agency to run the draw(s), I can't imagine much of a profit from 2 million. But that's not really the point. The WDFW should be generating revenue by (A) recruiting new hunters and fishermen, and (B) attracting non-residents to recreate in Washington. As far as I can tell it is doing neither.
The contract to run the draw is quite small...$5-8k is what I am recalling??  I would guess the draw is actually quite "profitable".  I'd be happy to handle it for WDFW  :chuckle:
 
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Re: Inheriting Bonus Points
« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2014, 09:48:40 PM »
It wouldn't take but 10-15 years and 90% of the applicants would have max points....  :dunno:  Putting in for draws is bureaucratic enough, I say nay. 

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Re: Inheriting Bonus Points
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2014, 12:16:24 PM »
Keep it simple.

What's the basis for treating one citizen of our state demonstrably different than another for access to the same limited PUBLIC resources? 

Please explain how having relatives that hunted means you should receive more opportunity than someone who didn't?  I got born.  I'm a citizen. I pay taxes. I'm equal in all other respects but my father doesn't hunt.  Why should my odds of drawing be reduced?

The hunter who built the points received the benefit of them all the way along, they had better odds each  year. They could have used them for lesser quality hunts but held out, maybe never drawing. They had an absolutely fair shake.  When a person purchases a point they aren't getting a commodity. It's not property.  It's a lotto ticket and he/she benefited from it by virtue of increasing their odds regardless of whether they drew.

I can't see any reasonable basis to extend a preference in drawing outcomes to people based on the good fortune of  having been in a hunting family.

PS: not to mention that everyone's 50 year old non hunter relative would now be getting a license and earning points whether they hunt, or don't as an investment by their kids in improved odds in the future.

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Re: Inheriting Bonus Points
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2014, 01:22:40 PM »
Keep it simple.

What's the basis for treating one citizen of our state demonstrably different than another for access to the same limited PUBLIC resources? 

Please explain how having relatives that hunted means you should receive more opportunity than someone who didn't?  I got born.  I'm a citizen. I pay taxes. I'm equal in all other respects but my father doesn't hunt.  Why should my odds of drawing be reduced?

The hunter who built the points received the benefit of them all the way along, they had better odds each  year. They could have used them for lesser quality hunts but held out, maybe never drawing. They had an absolutely fair shake.  When a person purchases a point they aren't getting a commodity. It's not property.  It's a lotto ticket and he/she benefited from it by virtue of increasing their odds regardless of whether they drew.
I can't see any reasonable basis to extend a preference in drawing outcomes to people based on the good fortune of  having been in a hunting family.

PS: not to mention that everyone's 50 year old non hunter relative would now be getting a license and earning points whether they hunt, or don't as an investment by their kids in improved odds in the future.
:yeah: Very well said!
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Re: Inheriting Bonus Points
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2014, 09:56:10 PM »
Keep it simple.

What's the basis for treating one citizen of our state demonstrably different than another for access to the same limited PUBLIC resources? 

Please explain how having relatives that hunted means you should receive more opportunity than someone who didn't?  I got born.  I'm a citizen. I pay taxes. I'm equal in all other respects but my father doesn't hunt.  Why should my odds of drawing be reduced?

The hunter who built the points received the benefit of them all the way along, they had better odds each  year. They could have used them for lesser quality hunts but held out, maybe never drawing. They had an absolutely fair shake.  When a person purchases a point they aren't getting a commodity. It's not property.  It's a lotto ticket and he/she benefited from it by virtue of increasing their odds regardless of whether they drew.
I can't see any reasonable basis to extend a preference in drawing outcomes to people based on the good fortune of  having been in a hunting family.

PS: not to mention that everyone's 50 year old non hunter relative would now be getting a license and earning points whether they hunt, or don't as an investment by their kids in improved odds in the future.
:yeah: Very well said!

+ 1 on that!   
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