How do we get back Sept 8-21 season?

[huntnnw]

I find it funny how many whine over the dates! Early sept is one of the best times to actually "call" in a big bull! or if your doing your homework knowing where active wallows are for ambushes. Yes they may not be bugling a ton or its too hot. I think what people associate good hunting with is hearing elk bugle or what they have watched on TV to give them what they think elk hunting should be like. One of the hardest times to kill the herd bull is the later part of Sept and most and what I mean by most is about 98% of this forum will shoot the first bull they see.

When I first started seriously chasing elk with a bow our season started on the 1st and I killed 3 bulls 3 years in a row within the first 3 days! all called in. When they moved dates I didnt kill one for 2 years and started hunting ID after that.

[dreamingbig]

I have killed 5 elk in the past 9 years (2 yrs were a spike only) hunting the same
GMU and none of them have been killed prior to Sep 7th so to each their own.  The heat, fire season and Labor Day crowds are my biggest motivation for the later start.


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[grundy53]

Do we get to change the definition back to 6+ points too?


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I think they should define a Mature Bull for the sake of harvest stats the same way they define a Mature Bull in the Game Management Plan. It is foolish to lump the 5 point Immature Bulls (raghorns) in the harvest stats. I hope the Department straightens that out. If the Commission is shown the inconsistency they might have no choice!

On the Westside there are quite a few mature five points. A lot of bulls never grow a sixth point.

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[dreamingbig]

I would be okay with different standards east vs. west.  Makes a lot of sense to manage them separately.


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[grundy53]

I would be okay with different standards east vs. west.  Makes a lot of sense to manage them separately.


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I agree. They are 2 different sub-species and should be managed differently.

[pianoman9701]

I would be okay with different standards east vs. west.  Makes a lot of sense to manage them separately.


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I agree. They are 2 different sub-species and should be managed differently.

Easier said than done, especially in the Cascades. I believe that to the DFW, I-5 is the divider between Roosevelt and Rocky Mountain, or American elk. However, I have yet to find an elk that can read highway signs. So what happens if you shoot the wrong species? I think making two distinct seasons might work if it were for specific areas a lot better than for distinct species. Roosevelt and American elk are a lot closer together and harder to distinguish than blacktails, whitetails, and mulies, IMHO.

[Bean Counter]

I believe that to the DFW, I-5 is the divider between Roosevelt and Rocky Mountain, or American elk.

It is to the Boone & Crocket club as well.

[grundy53]

I would be okay with different standards east vs. west.  Makes a lot of sense to manage them separately.


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I agree. They are 2 different sub-species and should be managed differently.

Easier said than done, especially in the Cascades. I believe that to the DFW, I-5 is the divider between Roosevelt and Rocky Mountain, or American elk. However, I have yet to find an elk that can read highway signs. So what happens if you shoot the wrong species? I think making two distinct seasons might work if it were for specific areas a lot better than for distinct species. Roosevelt and American elk are a lot closer together and harder to distinguish than blacktails, whitetails, and mulies, IMHO.

It wouldn't be that hard. Do it by region. If a region is predominantly rosies manage it for rosies. And vise versa. Just like they do with Mule/Blacktail deer. Have the pacific crest trail be the boundary, or I-5. Heck, they already kind of do it. West of PCT three point or better east of PCT spike only (not including the NE corner).

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[dreamingbig]

It wouldn't be perfect but it would be close enough based on how they make decisions.


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[D-Rock425]

Well nows the time to start writing emails to wdfw.  The planning for the next 3 years has started.

[longwalker]

how do we get back? wait till next year when labor day is the 7th.....

[motg9_6]

just got a survey email will post the link asap looking at season changes for the next cycle

[motg9_6]

 http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/


heres the link but theres another thread started regarding the 2015+ season and reg changes start reading it so we can all get on the same page

[Rainier10]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/


heres the link but theres another thread started regarding the 2015+ season and reg changes start reading it so we can all get on the same page

Can you post a link to the other thread or let me know what forum it is in?

[motg9_6]

Its in the virtual campfire