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Because we have twice the number of overall hunters and fewer animals due to mismanagement.
I posted this up on a ML thread about dates and tweaked originally what I was thinking but how about early archery starts second Saturday of September goes for 16 days and that is both for elk and deer. Then ML early starts second Saturday of October for 16 days for both deer and elk. Modern second Saturday of November for 16 days both deer and elk. Late ML and archery season December 1-15.
When the bowhunters first won separate seasons a 30 yard shot with a bow was considered about as difficult as a 300 yard rifle shot; people who had shot both weapons said a guy could shoot ten times farther with a rifle and that was widely accepted as a good generality. Today we have some guy on YouTube popping balloons with a compound from 300 yards. It is very evident that technology has removed from bowhunting the challenge that it presented when it was first granted the opportunity for longer seasons. Those who argue that it shouldn’t have longer seasons only know compound hunting. And compound hunting is entirely different…from a different planet, so to speak…from what bowhunting seasons were created for; they were created to give outdoorsmen who were willing to accept the greater challenge more time afield, and were justified by the inherent difficulty of shooting the weapon. As the difficulty decreases with technological advances (and 300 yard balloon shots demonstrated) it becomes harder and harder to justify the longer seasons. And so…primitive seasons for primitive weapons will soon again be an argument that might be worth discussing.But this thread is about how to get the elk seasons back to September 8-21. Can you keep those thoughts flowing? This summer the WDFW will start fleshing out the recommendations for the 2015-17 package and we need to have our ducks lined up by the Fall of this year. your logic is a bit flawed.... what diff does it make if I call in and kill my bull at 25 yrds with my hoyt or a recurve? just because the technology is better, in no way means you can just pick up a bow and kill animals at 90 yrds. Id guess that 90% of bowhunters really should not shoot past 50n yrds... ever.... so it is still very much a close game and much harder.... rifle hunting is easy.. I have hunted with/for disabled tag holder during those seasons.... I see it... it dies..... I was into elk every day or archery this year and had 1 shot I messed up on... and I can hold a consistent 8 in group out to 100 yrds with broadheads btw.... that in no way means that is a shot I want or will take.
Quote from: Snapshot on April 08, 2014, 08:54:26 PMWhen the bowhunters first won separate seasons a 30 yard shot with a bow was considered about as difficult as a 300 yard rifle shot; people who had shot both weapons said a guy could shoot ten times farther with a rifle and that was widely accepted as a good generality. Today we have some guy on YouTube popping balloons with a compound from 300 yards. It is very evident that technology has removed from bowhunting the challenge that it presented when it was first granted the opportunity for longer seasons. Those who argue that it shouldn’t have longer seasons only know compound hunting. And compound hunting is entirely different…from a different planet, so to speak…from what bowhunting seasons were created for; they were created to give outdoorsmen who were willing to accept the greater challenge more time afield, and were justified by the inherent difficulty of shooting the weapon. As the difficulty decreases with technological advances (and 300 yard balloon shots demonstrated) it becomes harder and harder to justify the longer seasons. And so…primitive seasons for primitive weapons will soon again be an argument that might be worth discussing.But this thread is about how to get the elk seasons back to September 8-21. Can you keep those thoughts flowing? This summer the WDFW will start fleshing out the recommendations for the 2015-17 package and we need to have our ducks lined up by the Fall of this year. your logic is a bit flawed.... what diff does it make if I call in and kill my bull at 25 yrds with my hoyt or a recurve? just because the technology is better, in no way means you can just pick up a bow and kill animals at 90 yrds. Id guess that 90% of bowhunters really should not shoot past 50n yrds... ever.... so it is still very much a close game and much harder.... rifle hunting is easy.. I have hunted with/for disabled tag holder during those seasons.... I see it... it dies..... I was into elk every day or archery this year and had 1 shot I messed up on... and I can hold a consistent 8 in group out to 100 yrds with broadheads btw.... that in no way means that is a shot I want or will take.
Quote from: russ_mcdonald on September 24, 2014, 11:09:47 AMI posted this up on a ML thread about dates and tweaked originally what I was thinking but how about early archery starts second Saturday of September goes for 16 days and that is both for elk and deer. Then ML early starts second Saturday of October for 16 days for both deer and elk. Modern second Saturday of November for 16 days both deer and elk. Late ML and archery season December 1-15.this would never work.
