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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2014, 08:05:17 PM »
depends on the tape style, some of the call makers use a really wide tape and I have to cut them down a lot on the sides.  I work with a call company out of Oklahoma and our calls are 1/8 inch narrower than most calls, doesn't sound like much, but I can feel the difference.

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2014, 08:28:59 PM »
I can make calls on three different frame sizes (small, medium and Large).  Large seems to be the industry standard for turkey calls but my medium frame fits people better and is becoming a very good seller with good reviews.

I can also tailor the cuts, overhangs and latex selection to make the calls as clean or as raspy as you want. :tup:

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2014, 08:41:55 PM »
I continue to improve with the mouth call. After Turkeydancer's class, I really improved my calls overall, but my best calls are all coming from my slate call.

As far as the diaphragm call, I am able to cluck and yelp with the diaphragm, but my sounds are a bit too 'loose' or 'uncontrolled'. I cannot and may not ever be able to purr with the diaphragm. I have never been able to roll my Rs.

How can I tighten up my clucks and yelps?

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2014, 09:35:50 PM »
I continue to improve with the mouth call. After Turkeydancer's class, I really improved my calls overall, but my best calls are all coming from my slate call.

As far as the diaphragm call, I am able to cluck and yelp with the diaphragm, but my sounds are a bit too 'loose' or 'uncontrolled'. I cannot and may not ever be able to purr with the diaphragm. I have never been able to roll my Rs.

How can I tighten up my clucks and yelps?

Try increasing tongue pressure and using a bit less air. I'm not sure if what I am about to type will make sense, but I'll try.  Instead blowing a short burst of air with your upper chest and mouth, do more of a quick huff from down in your belly.  This will give a more natural sound.  Also, I keep my lips shut and let the air pressure open them for the short cluck sound.

As far as purring, it is tough to get it right and I still don't have it the way I want it and I learned how to use a mouth call in 1998!  A lot has to do with the type of call, too.

This is one of the best videos for purring I have found: Purring on a mouth call

Joe is a call builder and competition caller from California.

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2014, 09:42:59 PM »
I continue to improve with the mouth call. After Turkeydancer's class, I really improved my calls overall, but my best calls are all coming from my slate call.

As far as the diaphragm call, I am able to cluck and yelp with the diaphragm, but my sounds are a bit too 'loose' or 'uncontrolled'. I cannot and may not ever be able to purr with the diaphragm. I have never been able to roll my Rs.

How can I tighten up my clucks and yelps?

Tighten up (flex your tongue) a little more, pull in your cheeks and more of a pop or drop off of the diaphragm.

A loose yelp is usally because you are relaxing your tongue and mouth. This also makes the sound chamber (your mouth) larger and sound looser.

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2014, 07:27:29 AM »
Keep in mind that the worst caller I ever heard was a live hen ... it's a given that live hens would never win a calling contest, but amazingly they still get their "man" !

They all have different voices so don't worry to much about that either, but they all have that same turkey rythmn .... make sure you learn and use that same rythmn.

As mentioned you don't have to blow real hard ... just huff some air from your diaphragm.

Practice ... practice ... practice ... confidence in your calling is a key and that comes with practice and finding that the toms will respond to your calling ....  heck, they respond to those lousy live hen calls.

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2014, 08:14:17 AM »
I really recommend getting the 6 pack of calls from Jason.  This is the first year I've really been giving the mouth calls some serious practice and it has been great being able to try out a variety of different styles.  I have found some much easier to yelp with and others easier to make other calls with.  For instance, the green colored call seems to work well for me to do the higher pitch call with.  Another thing that I like is that I have a Primos CD where they teach you how to make calls.  You can sit and listen to someone else and then try to imitate the call.  Practice makes a big big difference. 

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2014, 09:03:40 PM »
Practice ... practice ... practice ... confidence in your calling is a key and that comes with practice and finding that the toms will respond to your calling ....  heck, they respond to those lousy live hen calls.

turkeydsncer, did you get me emails or PM? I am starting to feel like a nuisance. The email that you sent me did not have the attachment on it.

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2014, 07:22:01 AM »
Jeff:

Not a nuisance ... don't know what happened the first time - resent a second time from home after your PM ... sent a third time this morning from work ... we'll keep trying until we get it right ... sort of like turkey hunting .... let me know if you get it or don't.

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2014, 07:35:29 AM »
Got it this morning. I guess third time was the ticket. Let's hope that I can bag a bird in less attempts than that.  :tup:

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2014, 08:05:04 AM »
I just picked up some new Diaphragm calls at Wal-Mart. they are H S Strut Premium Flex 4 Diaphragms, in a 4 pack. They are big and soft, they seal nice to the roof of my mouth.  I've been using mouth calls for 24 years now and these are the easiest mouth calls to use. I've tried them all. I've lost 4 teeth in the top of my mouth and haven't found a call that I can be consistent with. Cutts, putts, purrs, yelps it does them all.  :tup:     

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2014, 08:13:13 AM »
I am not sure how many of you tried Jason Phelps calls but if you have not you are seriously missing out .... Here is a new call from Phelps but I have to tell you I have a few more that may sound better once I get them broken in ...I think he has one that makes a purr like I never heard ...I will post that one if anyone cares . https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200785064107797&l=4943338790694830730
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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2014, 08:25:02 AM »
I am not sure how many of you tried Jason Phelps calls but if you have not you are seriously missing out ....
I started using HS mouth calls back in 89 for elk, and turkeys in 91, and have tried a lot of different brands. I've tried the style of those Phelps call, (Not his) some work and some don't. I quite buying them because of my teeth problem, I saw these yesterday and picked them up. They work great right out of the package. Plus I got 4 calls for the price of one of his calls. 

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Re: Mouth Calls
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2014, 08:35:10 AM »
I continue to improve with the mouth call. After Turkeydancer's class, I really improved my calls overall, but my best calls are all coming from my slate call.

As far as the diaphragm call, I am able to cluck and yelp with the diaphragm, but my sounds are a bit too 'loose' or 'uncontrolled'. I cannot and may not ever be able to purr with the diaphragm. I have never been able to roll my Rs.

How can I tighten up my clucks and yelps?

Try increasing tongue pressure and using a bit less air. I'm not sure if what I am about to type will make sense, but I'll try.  Instead blowing a short burst of air with your upper chest and mouth, do more of a quick huff from down in your belly.  This will give a more natural sound.  Also, I keep my lips shut and let the air pressure open them for the short cluck sound.

As far as purring, it is tough to get it right and I still don't have it the way I want it and I learned how to use a mouth call in 1998!  A lot has to do with the type of call, too.

This is one of the best videos for purring I have found: Purring on a mouth call

Joe is a call builder and competition caller from California.
not to stir up things but this guy is not doing the actual calling  :dunno: watch his lips and notice when he spits out the call the yelps or purrs continue on .. I think he is not that great at lip sinking  :tup: :twocents: :yike:

 


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