RAMPANT USE OF PESTICIDES

[buckfvr]

Timber companies make governors make commissioners make directors................

[KFhunter]

too bad those foaming at the mouth Elk weren't biopsied

[bobcat]

It's disturbing that the DFW isn't including studies of sprays as a possible cause of hoof rot and are passing the buck off to other agencies when managing wildlife is their responsibility. How can you effectively manage wildlife if you allow it to be poisoned without raising a finger in question.

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[bbarnes]

Wait until the signatures are raised to put this on the ballot,to be voted on to stop all timber land spaying in Washington.There will be a injunction first, investigation second law suit third ,payout fourth then a vote of the public.Then will see what private property rights people have ,to destroy timberlands the environment and are water and fish and wildlife.STAY TUNED

[WAcoyotehunter]

I'm surprised there hasn't been an initiative on this yet.  I bet if they planned to spray near Seattle/Bellevue/Issaquah there would be more uproar.

Don't be naive, how do you think they keep the landscapes in those areas looking nice? Pesticides are used everywhere from your parks to schools to the forests. Applicators are required to keep up to snuff on the latest by WSDA. Pesticides have their place.

They are everywhere.... Atrizine would be scary, the 2,4d is not such a big deal.  It does not have any soil persistence and only kills some broadleaves.  I hat seeing the really large scale defoliations by the timber company. 

Depending on the language in an initiative, I might support it.  I see a place for smart pesticide use, but applicators need to be careful about it. 

[singleshot12]

Wait until the signatures are raised to put this on the ballot,to be voted on to stop all timber land spaying in Washington.There will be a injunction first, investigation second law suit third ,payout fourth then a vote of the public.Then will see what private property rights people have ,to destroy timberlands the environment and are water and fish and wildlife.STAY TUNED

Bout time! we need more scientists on our side tho The ones bought off by the chem co's to prove it's safe can go bye bye first

[bbarnes]

I contacted the Washington Forest Law center today who I will be working with.STAY TUNED.I urge every concerned citizen to contact them on this issue.

[WildlifeAssassin]

Good for you being proactive. This is a ridiculous method of forest management and hopefully it won't be around much longer. If people understood ecosystems and the incredible level of biodiversity and synergistic activity from the soil to the tree canopy no one would support this practice. Widely broadcasting poison should be a criminal offense.

[singleshot12]

   hopefully it won't be too late. But nature will fight back one or the other

[JLS]

Wildlife is the property of the public. If they're negatively affecting wildlife through spraying, (that hasn't been proven yet), then they're stealing from the public. It's quite simple.

Not exactly.  There is no legal obligation for landowners to conduct practices in order to provide for wildlife habitat.  The Palouse is a prime example.  Relative to 25 years ago, there is much less cover available.

So, if you can prove the spray directly affects the wildlife by physically harming them, then you correct.  If your argument is that spraying creates poor habitat (which it does) and thereby harms the wildlife you have no argument. 

[headshot5]

too bad those foaming at the mouth Elk weren't biopsied

I'm with KF, a biopsy would have been very beneficial.  The fact that all the animals were dying during a short period of time would mean either a gross over application of said herbicide, or a completely different problem all together.  Something like a bumper year for water hemlock and a shortage of feed for elk...

http://www.ars.usda.gov/services/docs.htm?docid=9996 (see link)  I only mention this because it is one of the things we look out for on the farm.  Also, because from bbarnes description the symptoms fit (from symptoms shown by cattle).  I'd hate for everybody to get so focused on chemical applications that they overlook the real culprit if it indeed is determined to be something other than herbicides.  This is just a reminder to keep an open mind.       

[sakoshooter]

I've been talking with law makers about this since the die off of 2006 in the tousle river valley.The ELK were walking around like zombies foaming at the mouth and would lay down and kick them selfs to death.Again in 2008 the same thing,at that time we were told it was starvation.Myself and others didn't buy it,this was all taking place while the timber company,was spraying and dropping pellets in all the areas above the mud flow.This year I decided to take matters in my own hands,and we formed a group to look into this situation.Since then I have been to the DNR three times,the department of AG twice,talked with the department of ecology on numerous occasions,and still the same answer.They always point you to another agency,and defend what's going on even when you point out the facts of the matter.I also have attend many of our states game commission meeting,including last Friday.Now after a year of getting the run around,I have sleeked legal advice from some well known and extremely successful attorneys.The bottom line is we need this looked into,for are own health and safety,also the health of our wild lands and fish and wildlife.Now we can all be arm chair quarter backs,and choose to let's others do all the work,or we can write a few emails,and make a few phone calls.These chemicals have not been approved to be mixed together period.

Good for you for your efforts. Best of luck and keep us posted.

[t6]

http://jongosch.com/growing-evidence-links-herbicides-to-elk-hoof-disease/

Good article by Jon Gosch.

[snowpack]

http://jongosch.com/growing-evidence-links-herbicides-to-elk-hoof-disease/

Good article by Jon Gosch.

I wouldn't expect too much help from DNR on this.  I read an article the other day talking about how much money Weyco and a few other tree farmers had pumped into Goldmark's last campaign.

[BrushChimp]

http://jongosch.com/growing-evidence-links-herbicides-to-elk-hoof-disease/

Good article by Jon Gosch.

You want to join the envirowacko's campaign? Just show me where to sign!!