Good Bowhunting Sidearm... 40, 10, 45?

[Hornseeker]

JLS...
Yeah... I would be grateful too! I'd be happy with my 94' 30-30 over a 44.... But the 06'... Oh hell yeah.

Held the G20 an 29 last night. 20 regular was way too big for my hand. I guess the short is much better for smaller hands. That 29 with 11 rounds would work fine for my purposes. But the 20 is probably much more shoot able.

[splitshot]

  I have 2.  take turns.  a tcp in 380 weighs 10 oz.  an lcp in 380 weighs only 9 oz.  if you look around they can be had for less than $300 each.    aint no griz in Othello.   mike w

[CAMPMEAT]

  I have 2.  take turns.  a tcp in 380 weighs 10 oz.  an lcp in 380 weighs only 9 oz.  if you look around they can be had for less than $300 each.    aint no griz in Othello.   mike w

Mike,
Does your TCP 380 jam all the time ? My wifes does and it's going in for warranty.

[magnanimous_j]

It's all about Kinetic Energy, not FPS. You want a round that will hit whatever you're shooting at, like a sledge hammer.

Kinetic Energy is mass x velocity. (KE= .5 x MV2)

All the weight in the world is meaningless without the horsepower to push it.

Your formula is incorrect.

Kinetic energy = one half mass x velocity^2... KE = 1/2MV^2

How is that different than what I said? I admit, I always sucked at syntax.

[NW-GSP]

Hornseeker was it the gen 4 g20 that you held?
I had a gen 3 and it was a little too big but the gen 4 fits perfect

[Bean Counter]

It's all about Kinetic Energy, not FPS. You want a round that will hit whatever you're shooting at, like a sledge hammer.

Kinetic Energy is mass x velocity. (KE= .5 x MV2)

All the weight in the world is meaningless without the horsepower to push it.

Your formula is incorrect.

Kinetic energy = one half mass x velocity^2... KE = 1/2MV^2

How is that different than what I said? I admit, I always sucked at syntax.

Parenthetically, it would probably have been fine if you hand wrote it. I'm guessing you would have written the 2 in the smaller superscript (as written its a 2 for multiplication and not exponentiation). to be clear: velocity is squared, not multiplied times 2. So you also could have wrote KE = .5 x MVV. I guess I was more hung up on how you wrote it in plain English: that KE is simply a function of mass times velocity. It is important to remember that velocity is far more influential in KE than mass--which you also pointed out. 

[Hornseeker]

So KE... MV pretty important... Which is why a 22-250 with a solid would way out penetrate a 45acp or some such.... But when I momentum important, Where mass makes a huge difference...

I don't think it's as important in bullets as it is in arrows...(momentum)

Not sure gen 3 or 4?? It was brand new...

[jstone]

I use a 44 or my 40 when i am in the woods

[HillSlick]

To punch through a Grizz skull you need atleast a 357. Mag with hard cast rounds or .44 mag with hard cast rounds, anything smaller and you'll be lunch my man,


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[HillSlick]

There's a gent that had a 357. MAG (no hard cast rounds) that had a Grizz come after him, he run up a tree and emptied the gun into the beats head, didn't kill it, his friend finally got it with his .454, X-rays showed that NONE of the 357 rounds pierced the skull, only took small chips off


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[Hornseeker]

How does a 357 mag stack up to the 10mm?

[thinkingman]

How does a 357 mag stack up to the 10mm?

Depends on barrel length.
A 3.5" barrel on a 10mm vs a 6" barrel on a .357mag is going to level the playing field more than the 10mm fans want to admit.
I will find some ballistic data to support.
Here is some data.
If you click on the link for 10mm, they use a Colt Delta Elite with a 5.03" barrel.
No Glock 10mm runs that long.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

[Hornseeker]

My buddy just ordered a six inch barrel for his 20, and an extended slide. Should pump up velocity huh?

[KFhunter]

I'm going to longslide my G20 and slap in a 9x25 Dillon barrel

should send a 90gr XTP pill over 2000 fps

[Bofire]

  http://shootingthebull.net/blog/more-on-overpenetration-what-about-fmjs/

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