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Offline Bob33

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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2014, 12:48:25 PM »
I've been actively involved with the program for ten years. I've seen the good and bad. I'll leave the "bad" to others who seem to thrive on that.

The good for me is this:
- I've met some of my best hunting partners through the program.
- I've met and made friends with multiple private landowners, and have far more hunting opportunity today than I did ten years ago.
- I've become far more conscious of the importance of legal and ethical hunting.
- I've been exposed to many volunteer activities than I would have otherwise. For example, I became a volunteer Hunter Education instructor because of some contacts I made in the program.
- I've been afforded hunting opportunities that I otherwise would not have.

Is is worth it? That's up to each individual to decide. For me, the good has definitely outweighed the bad.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2014, 12:56:47 PM »
Is there a way that you can contact all of the enrolled members of the MH program? If so, getting a letter of grievance signed by a significant number of the enrolled members would have much more of an impact than you going at it alone.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2014, 01:23:03 PM »
Is there a way that you can contact all of the enrolled members of the MH program? If so, getting a letter of grievance signed by a significant number of the enrolled members would have much more of an impact than you going at it alone.

Interesting idea. It would be ironic if the DFW supplied me with such a list.  :chuckle:
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2014, 03:21:00 PM »
Is there a way that you can contact all of the enrolled members of the MH program? If so, getting a letter of grievance signed by a significant number of the enrolled members would have much more of an impact than you going at it alone.

Interesting idea. It would be ironic if the DFW supplied me with such a list.  :chuckle:

I went through the first year the program was offered. "Way back then" they actually gave out contact info for all the AHE program members. Mik Mikitik was in charge. Not sure if this is the case any longer.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2014, 03:36:14 PM »
If you have concerns, my suggestion is to first take it to their Advisory Group.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/masterhunter/advisory_groups.html


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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2014, 06:19:59 PM »
Hey Pman, I certainly feel your frustration. There is a ton of good advice in this thread and ultimately the choice is yours.  I think that staying in and making your voice herd multiple times as a master hunter will carry more wait than one well thought out resignation letter on the way out.  Again the choice is yours.  I would also suggest maybe a PM to Ucwarden, I know he was frustrated when he left the department and I believe he may be even more frustrated now that he has left.  I would think he might have some advice on if you should stay in to fight the fight or if he thinks you can do more from the outside.  Just a thought.

Good luck and I support whatever you decide.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2014, 06:21:55 PM »
Is there a way that you can contact all of the enrolled members of the MH program? If so, getting a letter of grievance signed by a significant number of the enrolled members would have much more of an impact than you going at it alone.

Interesting idea. It would be ironic if the DFW supplied me with such a list.  :chuckle:

I went through the first year the program was offered. "Way back then" they actually gave out contact info for all the AHE program members. Mik Mikitik was in charge. Not sure if this is the case any longer.

They stopped giving out that info years ago.




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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2014, 06:36:07 PM »
Is there a way that you can contact all of the enrolled members of the MH program? If so, getting a letter of grievance signed by a significant number of the enrolled members would have much more of an impact than you going at it alone.

Interesting idea. It would be ironic if the DFW supplied me with such a list.  :chuckle:

 :yeah:

MH's are all divided right now,  what would/could happen if you had a place to go to communicate with other MH's to get things changed?



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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2014, 06:51:30 PM »
Is there a way that you can contact all of the enrolled members of the MH program? If so, getting a letter of grievance signed by a significant number of the enrolled members would have much more of an impact than you going at it alone.

Interesting idea. It would be ironic if the DFW supplied me with such a list.  :chuckle:

I went through the first year the program was offered. "Way back then" they actually gave out contact info for all the AHE program members. Mik Mikitik was in charge. Not sure if this is the case any longer.

They stopped giving out that info years ago.

Mik retired last year.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2014, 07:14:55 PM »
Would you want WDFW giving out the contact information for all hunters to anyone who asked?

I wouldn't.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2014, 09:04:44 PM by Bob33 »
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2014, 08:45:04 PM »
Start new threads under each topic directing Master Hunters to a thread for Master Hunters to PM each other?  :dunno: :dunno:

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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2014, 10:28:04 PM »
I've never been a fan of the MH program.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2014, 11:39:26 PM »
Pman,

I'm just curious.   Are you considering giving up hunting in Washington all together or just the MH program?

By my way of thinking, if you're a defacto supporter of the agency for being a MH, you're a defacto supporter if you buy a hunting license.   Either way, you're working to their rules.

Not trying to pick a fight.   I appreciate your dilemma.

BTW, lots of good responses.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2014, 06:18:14 AM »
I've never been a fan of the MH program.

Yeah, the thread's not about whether you like the MH program. Sako. That's a whole other topic you could start. It's more about is how I'm planning on going about this the best way to do it to get a message across. And, I don't expect my message to come across to the DFW ever. I'm hoping to put pressure on them from above and outside.
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Re: It's Past Time to Resign my Master Hunter Certification
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2014, 06:23:46 AM »
Pman,

I'm just curious.   Are you considering giving up hunting in Washington all together or just the MH program?

By my way of thinking, if you're a defacto supporter of the agency for being a MH, you're a defacto supporter if you buy a hunting license.   Either way, you're working to their rules.

Not trying to pick a fight.   I appreciate your dilemma.

BTW, lots of good responses.

I appreciate your point and yes, I give a level of support just by purchasing a license. But, I can't afford to hunt out of state. But I won't hunt without one and I do have to hunt. I'm not sure how many years I have left that I'll be able to get up and down the hills. I think probably not too many.
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