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FFL?
« on: April 27, 2014, 08:16:04 PM »
so just wondering on all of your opinions on having a ffl for in house gun work and sales?
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FFL?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2014, 08:35:27 PM »
Not sure what you mean by "in house."  :dunno:

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Re: FFL?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 08:37:55 PM »
 the location of the ffl licence would be my house it will not be a actual store.  :tup:
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 08:38:23 PM »
Hobbyist FFL?  I think those are much less common than they were 25 years ago

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Re: FFL?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014, 08:41:00 PM »
I believe there would be the "Store front address" hurdle.
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2014, 08:47:02 PM »
it would be a type 01/02 and 06. looking to get into buying and selling just would like to be the only employee and keep it small. Also getting into just little customization's on pistols nothing to big but more like barell polishing, color filling, stippling and trigger jobs. from the understanding i got i would need a ffl in order to take those guns into my house "overnight" to perform that work...? if im wrong please people correct me im sure there is alot of guys on here that knows alot more about the ffl requirements then me
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2014, 09:02:37 PM »
I believe there would be the "Store front address" hurdle.
yes, you will need an actual storefront..private home based ffl's are a thing of the past
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2014, 09:05:39 PM »
I believe there would be the "Store front address" hurdle.
yes, you will need an actual storefront..private home based ffl's are a thing of the past

Some must be grandfathered in then, as I know a guy who has an FFL and works out of his house. He buys and sells a lot of guns, and does minor gunsmithing work.   :dunno:

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Re: FFL?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2014, 10:10:09 PM »
Just do the paperwork, mot hard to do, but time consuming. There are ways around the actual "store front" it really al depends on where you live because yr local LE has to sign off on it.


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Re: FFL?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 05:01:12 PM »
Ok sounds good I'll just send it in and see what happens
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2014, 05:49:43 PM »
Kinda off topic / on topic question but can one get an FFL just for there own use . So they don't have to pay somebody else the transfer fees and mark up. Say they want a new rifle / pistol just order it up kinda thing.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2014, 08:20:17 PM »
Kinda off topic / on topic question but can one get an FFL just for there own use . So they don't have to pay somebody else the transfer fees and mark up. Say they want a new rifle / pistol just order it up kinda thing.

No...

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Re: FFL?
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2014, 08:33:24 PM »
Kinda off topic / on topic question but can one get an FFL just for there own use . So they don't have to pay somebody else the transfer fees and mark up. Say they want a new rifle / pistol just order it up kinda thing.

No...
Theoretically you could.  The government can't force you to sell a gun, but..... you would have to have a business license, state firearms license, and a FFL.  Plus have a "store front" building.
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2014, 08:34:31 PM »
My FFL guy does not have a store front. He does have a business license etc for home type of repairs, transfers etc.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2014, 08:48:51 PM »
My FFL guy does not have a store front. He does have a business license etc for home type of repairs, transfers etc.
So he has a business with stated hours or an appointment book. 
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2014, 06:36:22 AM »
My FFL guy does not have a store front. He does have a business license etc for home type of repairs, transfers etc.
So he has a business with stated hours or an appointment book.



No. He has a fulltime job.
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: FFL?
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2014, 09:41:18 AM »
They will also ask you to get a conditional use permit, business license, and register with the Dept of Revenue.  If you don't have set hours or a store front, they most likely will not approve the license.  Having the FFL at your home opens up the ability for them to also inspect your residence as well.   Its definitely more difficult now to get a "home" based ffl than it was in the past.
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2014, 10:56:51 AM »
My guy has been doing it for 25 years, if that makes a difference..
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Re: FFL?
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2014, 11:04:37 AM »
I know 2 guys who have an FFL and no store front, both have "by appointment only" schedules.  One just got his FFL last year.  Both work out of their homes.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2014, 11:04:29 PM »
  I know 2 guys in moses lake who were turned down in the last 2 years.    mike w

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Re: FFL?
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2014, 01:30:03 AM »
They will also ask you to get a conditional use permit, business license, and register with the Dept of Revenue.  If you don't have set hours or a store front, they most likely will not approve the license.  Having the FFL at your home opens up the ability for them to also inspect your residence as well.   Its definitely more difficult now to get a "home" based ffl than it was in the past.

Also the majority of the home insurances will say no way to running a ffl out of the house. Big increase in liability. A lot of people don't think about insurance. It is pretty dang expensive anytime you get into a ffl or gun smithing. You make a modification and the gun blows up and you don't insurance kiss anything you have good bye without insurance!

You need to look into excises tax as well. I think manufactures have to pay about 2500 a year no matter how many guns you build if you want a 06. There is also Washington state licenses you have to have as well that is another 125.00 a year and if you are going to do anything nfa you get into SOT stuff and thsts like 500.00 a year I think.
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