Fuse (Hoyt) Carbon Blade Interceptor 7 pin on Element sight in questions

[returnofsid]

As some of you may know, I purchased a new left handed 2013 Hoyt Element G3 a few days ago. It's set at 28" DL and 65 lbs. DW. In case this information is useful, in answering my questions, after the bow was set up and tuned, I ran 3 arrows through a chronograph. The average speed was 299.3 fps. I'm shooting GT XT Hunter 7595 weighing in at a total of 440 grains.

The sight we went with was a Fuse Carbon Blade Interceptor 7 pin (only because it was actually less expensive than the 5 pin).

Well, I'm attempting to do some research on this sight, maybe even find an instruction manual, with absolutely zero success! Why is that??

Anyway, how would you all recommend that I sight it in? I shoot the occasional 3D tournament but don't care about my score, and I hunt deer and elk. I've heard, that with newer bows, setting a 20 AND 30 yard pin can sometimes be a waste, as those pins end up so close together that they aren't both needed. Is this true? Should I set a 20, 40, 50, etc., skipping the 30 yard distance? OR, Should I set a 30, 40, 50 etc., skipping the 20 yard distance? OR, Should I just set 20, 30, 40, 50 etc?

This is the first new bow I've owned. Previously, I had a 2004 Mathews SQ2 with a 3 pin sight and a 2007 Hoyt Vectrix Xt500 with a 4 pin sight. With these setups, I've kept almost all of my practice at 50 yards or less, occasionally stacking pins to attempt the 60 and 70 yard targets.

So far, I've only shot it at 20 yards, in my back yard. I hope to get up to our club range this afternoon, where I can really put some distance shots through it! Any and all help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[sakoshooter]

Can't help ya w/that sight but as for setting pin distances: I'd set em up for 20, 30 etc.
Question: Are you sure you're getting 299 with that set up? That seems awful fast. Don't know of anyone getting that speed from that set up.

[jrebel]

Not familiar with the bow or the bows speed....but with a seven pin sight I would go 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 yard pins. 

You are correct that 20 and 30 will be close...but I would rather have a 20 yard pin than a 90 and those are really your two options. 

Hope that helps.

[returnofsid]

I know nothing about chronograph do I suppose it could have been off. My 3 arrows measured 298, 297 and 302.

I think I'll stick to the traditional 20, 30, 40, etc.

[scottcrb]

stay with 20-80 .try a youtube search for info on the sight,

[jrebel]

Your chrono's look realistic if it is a new bow.  You will be fine with a 20, 30, etc. 

[RadSav]

28" draw length and 440 grain arrows form a Hoyt CE-G3...You should buy that Chrony   You'd sell a lot of bows if you had guys shoot through that one   That's about 20 fps faster than that bow should shoot at 65#!

In hunting you are probably not going to use those last two pins on that sight anyway.  So where the first one is set shouldn't make any difference at all.  I'd set it for 20 and if you start having issues pull it off or swing it around for a 90.  Going to be just for looks more than likely anyway.  Though 90 yards is a great distance to practice

What were you trying to find out about that sight?  It's a pretty neat little sight, but no longer available since they went to the cheaper Dual Rod.  You got the better one IMO!

[D-Rock425]

I'm glad radsav said that about the crono because I was thinking in my head this doesn't make sense to me.

[returnofsid]

Luckily, I didn't buy it based on the faulty chrono lol. I'd already decided to buy it. The chrono was after the fact.

[RadSav]

Luckily, I didn't buy it based on the faulty chrono lol. I'd already decided to buy it. The chrono was after the fact.

Bad Chrony or not that bow should be great!  Sounds like you got it set up well too   And, other than the hubcaps, it's way more pretty than that ugly new model

[returnofsid]

Luckily, I didn't buy it based on the faulty chrono lol. I'd already decided to buy it. The chrono was after the fact.

Bad Chrony or not that bow should be great!  Sounds like you got it set up well too   And, other than the hubcaps, it's way more pretty than that ugly new model

Hubcaps? I thought those were training wheels...

[RadSav]

Hubcaps? I thought those were training wheels...

   Hubcaps on the end of the riser tubes.  I'll never get use to the beautiful tube work and flawless transition to stabilizer, sight and suppressor hardware.  And then they slap those ugly blocky hubcaps on the ends.  Even worse, instead of making them look nice and fitted for 2014 they changed the rest of the bow to match the ugly hubcaps   I guess everyone does like to stop and look at a twisted, bloody car wreck

I think you did great getting the model you did.  I like those!

[returnofsid]

Haha! Hadn't even noticed those! I'll have to look when I get home. Thanks! Now they'll probably drive me nuts! Haha

[RadSav]

Thanks! Now they'll probably drive me nuts! Haha

Could be worse   I just ordered the wife's Carbon Spyder 

[returnofsid]

I now see the Hubcaps you're referring to.  Fortunately, mine are black and completely unnoticeable!

[RadSav]

It would bother me more that your bow is backward

Have you tried mounting your quiver bracket yet?  I'm curious as to whether it is compatible with that sight.  I've never tried to put those two together.  In my head I'm having a hard time making them work.

[returnofsid]

It would bother me more that your bow is backward

Have you tried mounting your quiver bracket yet?  I'm curious as to whether it is compatible with that sight.  I've never tried to put those two together.  In my head I'm having a hard time making them work.

As a matter of fact, yes I've 'tried.'  It is compatible, as the site has a spot where the Tightspot bracket fits perfectly.  However, for some reason, the mounting screws seem to be too large of a diameter.  I'd planned on taking it to the archery tech today, to have him mount it for me, but halfway between Spokane and Cda, I received a call that forced me to turn around...Ugh!  That seems to be how my entire day has gone so far.  Anyway, I called him, explaining my thoughts.  He said that the Tightspot bracket mounting bolts WILL fit that sight.  He explained that Tightspot only sends one size of bolts, and that they fit almost all sights, including the one I have.  Hmmm.  I'm going to try again, but I'm not going to force them in.  If all else fails, I'll run it out to him in the next few days.  I think I left an arrow out there anyway.  I took 3 with me...now I only have 2...though it might be in the Suburban somewhere.  Today, I swear I'm losing my mind with all the running around I've done, getting absolutely nothing accomplished!

[RadSav]

Today, I swear I'm losing my mind with all the running around I've done, getting absolutely nothing accomplished!

Geeze, it sounds like you are self employed!

[returnofsid]

I finally made it to the club range this morning and spent a couple hours shooting/sighting in.  I learned something valuable!  It would seem, buying used bows makes sighting in much easier!  HAHA.  My previous 2 bows were both used.  Once I set the Peep to my eye, all I needed to do was either raise/lower, move left/right, the entire sight housing.  I've never had to move individual pins.  NOT the case with a new bow/sight!  Here, at home, I'd sighted in to 20 yards.  I got out to the range and was hitting low at 30, 40 50 etc., but dead on at 20.  "Chasing the arrow" with the entire housing resulted in hitting high at 20, obviously.  It finally dawned on me that I needed to individually move each pin.  So far, I'm not completely sighted in but much closer out to 50 yards.  After two hours of shooting, my shoulder told me it was time to take a break.  I may get out there again this evening, or tomorrow morning, to continue working on it.

[returnofsid]

28" draw length and 440 grain arrows form a Hoyt CE-G3...You should buy that Chrony   You'd sell a lot of bows if you had guys shoot through that one   That's about 20 fps faster than that bow should shoot at 65#!

In hunting you are probably not going to use those last two pins on that sight anyway.  So where the first one is set shouldn't make any difference at all.  I'd set it for 20 and if you start having issues pull it off or swing it around for a 90.  Going to be just for looks more than likely anyway.  Though 90 yards is a great distance to practice

What were you trying to find out about that sight?  It's a pretty neat little sight, but no longer available since they went to the cheaper Dual Rod.  You got the better one IMO!

I guess I'm looking for anything that I can, from the manufacturer.  Instructions, specs, etc.  I cannot even find any information on the manufacturer's website.  I've searched Youtube, with very little success, also.

[RadSav]

What were you trying to find out about that sight?  It's a pretty neat little sight, but no longer available since they went to the cheaper Dual Rod.  You got the better one IMO!

I guess I'm looking for anything that I can, from the manufacturer.  Instructions, specs, etc.  I cannot even find any information on the manufacturer's website.  I've searched Youtube, with very little success, also.

The Carbon Blade bow sight is still pretty much a Fuse version of Axion Archery's sights.  Fuse usually has there twist to it, but the adjustments and the concepts are still the same.  Actually, pretty much the same as nearly every micro gang adjustable sight made in the past couple decades
* Micro Gang adjust for windage
* Micro Gang adjust for elevation
* Individual pin adjustment (allen head)
* 2nd Axis adjustment via oblong allen mounting screw hole
* 3rd Axis adjustment via bubble level mounting screw

You could easily lose your mind trying to get the 3rd axis on this type of sight set and secured.  But it does happen if you can keep your sanity.  When setting the 3rd axis you will soon realize why top target shooters are willing to pay the big bucks for Spot Hogg and Sure-Loc   Second axis isn't too difficult.

Not much available online from Axion Archery either.  But I'm sure you could call and ask for instructions for any of their micro adjust sights and be ok.  Won't be exactly the same thing, but so dang close you won't miss a thing.  Will be basically the same thing as the current model micro adjust Fuse Helix Micro as well.

[returnofsid]

UHOH!  I guess I'm going to have to research 2nd Axis and 3rd Axis, so I understand what those actually are...

[RadSav]

UHOH!  I guess I'm going to have to research 2nd Axis and 3rd Axis, so I understand what those actually are...

   You'll be Doomed! 

Spot Hogg does instructions better than anyone.  You pins work differently, but you will understand if you open the instructions for the Hogg-It sight at this link  http://spot-hogg.com/interactive/

[returnofsid]

It would bother me more that your bow is backward

Have you tried mounting your quiver bracket yet?  I'm curious as to whether it is compatible with that sight.  I've never tried to put those two together.  In my head I'm having a hard time making them work.

Here's the Tight Spot Quiver, attached.