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Quote from: Fowlweather25 on May 03, 2014, 04:45:41 PMIm so friggin lost right now! [/quote Its not Illegal to bait for deer.It is illegal to bait for bear.Two different animals, with different rules.
Im so friggin lost right now!
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Quote from: Fowlweather25 on May 03, 2014, 04:45:41 PMIm so friggin lost right now! I think i get it. He is pissed over the polls about baiting. He does not like hunters getting pitted against each other. He is comparing losing bear baiting against the possibility of losing baiting for deer and elk....
What I am trying to say is just enjoy what we have. Embrace the different ways of hunting, who knows you may want to try some other way to hunt. Just because we don't agree with the way someone hunts dosent mean we will feel the same way next year.
Thankyou Birdguy, that is exactly what I am trying to say. I am glad that someone understands the way things are going. The sportsman and woman need to get more active at the game dept. meetings or phone calls or e-mails and give our voice a loader cry to try and better our sports. Lets stick together
I am pissed over the polls and all it takes is some idiot group to decide to get signatures like they did on bear hunting and next thing is its on the ballot. When that happens then its up to the voters and that is how you can loose on this. The anti hunting groups sit back and watch and wait for the right time and they will act on it. People forget that the game dept. is not funded by sportsman, its funded by the tax payer in the general fund and that is what gives the right to anybody to go get signatures and get it on the ballot. That's very dangerous to the sportsman. The voter can take away anything they want if they get the signatures and it ends up on the battot. Do not underestimate the power of that system. Years ago the game dept. was solely funded by the sportsman. The game dept. went bankrupt and the governor took over the game dept. If all the sportsman clubs in this state would have united then, we could have stopped this. At that time all the sportsman were all fighting amongst themselves instead of using their heads and we lost our control of the game dept. I know I am rambling on this but, I have been hunting this state since 1969 and I have seen a lot of bad changes.
Quote from: smalldog on May 04, 2014, 12:23:47 PMThankyou Birdguy, that is exactly what I am trying to say. I am glad that someone understands the way things are going. The sportsman and woman need to get more active at the game dept. meetings or phone calls or e-mails and give our voice a loader cry to try and better our sports. Lets stick togetherI'm with you smalldog, I hadn't seen the other thread before I read yours so to me it sounded very strange at first.
Quote from: smalldog on May 03, 2014, 06:23:02 PMI am pissed over the polls and all it takes is some idiot group to decide to get signatures like they did on bear hunting and next thing is its on the ballot. When that happens then its up to the voters and that is how you can loose on this. The anti hunting groups sit back and watch and wait for the right time and they will act on it. People forget that the game dept. is not funded by sportsman, its funded by the tax payer in the general fund and that is what gives the right to anybody to go get signatures and get it on the ballot. That's very dangerous to the sportsman. The voter can take away anything they want if they get the signatures and it ends up on the battot. Do not underestimate the power of that system. Years ago the game dept. was solely funded by the sportsman. The game dept. went bankrupt and the governor took over the game dept. If all the sportsman clubs in this state would have united then, we could have stopped this. At that time all the sportsman were all fighting amongst themselves instead of using their heads and we lost our control of the game dept. I know I am rambling on this but, I have been hunting this state since 1969 and I have seen a lot of bad changes.
It's what I think the WDFW wants, divided we fall. Look at how their public input on hunting regs has changed. It used to be a open forum and discussion, now they segmented it into groupings, if you want to talk Chukar go to this guy, elk go to this guy...etc. When asked what do kind of hunter are you( bow,ML,Rifle) I say A hunter. I own them all and pick and choose each year. It baffles some guys that I don't lobby for one specific weapon. Hell if I saw you out hunting with Atatl...I'd say Go for it! United we stand gentlemen. They want us bickering back and forth.
Quote from: muleyslayer on May 03, 2014, 04:53:30 PMQuote from: Fowlweather25 on May 03, 2014, 04:45:41 PMIm so friggin lost right now! [/quote Its not Illegal to bait for deer.It is illegal to bait for bear.Two different animals, with different rules.This has nothing to do with current law. This guy is concerned that deer baiting could become illegal, like bear baiting is now.
That's exactly what I am talking about, four counties and Seattle is one of them. The WDFW is run by the Governor and the people that he appoints.
Ok...since nobody bit on my smartass reply...basically poking fun at the seattle voters...here's a seriuos thought of hope...currently in the U.S. there is a movement of healthy eating...it seems we the people are getting tired of big box companies ruling the media with their toxic foods (high fructose corn syrup, pink sludge meat, chemical additives) and the movement is swaying towards organic foods...IF only we as hunters can join with organic food consumer groups to show that hunting (or "harvesting") wild game is no different than picking wild mushrooms or eating "free range organic chicken" then I believe we will sway enough opinion to ensure huntings future...but we must stop those few rotten eggs that ruin a "hunters" image in the non hunting world...I.E. poachers, drunken garbage spewing hunters, game showing tied to the roof (exceptions are displays of horns of course...nothing to be ashamed of) causing the game to spoil on the ride home, etc...oh and we need to stand together as one with a lobby group in DC pushing our Government to crack down on the unhealthy food producers...we did it with tobacco...we can do it to GMO as well.