What could happen if you illegal baiting deer

[darren]

That's exactly what I am talking about, four counties and Seattle is one of them. The WDFW is run by the Governor and the people that he appoints.

Well one statistic I just saw put it at 7% of the US that hunts. So it seems like Washington is probably just like the broader US -- hunting is a minority participating sport that's basically regulated by non-hunters. The laws aren't going away so time to appeal to hearts and minds.

I've talked with a number of non-hunters in my circle as I've transitioned from being a non-hunter to someone who wants to be a hunter one day. I've been able to persuade people that it's reasonable, but their initial/gut reactions are pretty negative. They just don't get it and there's enough of a divide between their life and everyday experience and hunting/hunters that they don't bump into counter arguments or actual experience often enough to change mindset.

[grade-creek-rd]

Ok...since nobody bit on my smartass reply...basically poking fun at the seattle voters...here's a seriuos thought of hope...currently in the U.S. there is a movement of healthy eating...it seems we the people are getting tired of big box companies ruling the media with their toxic foods (high fructose corn syrup, pink sludge meat, chemical additives) and the movement is swaying towards organic foods...IF only we as hunters can join with organic food consumer groups to show that hunting (or "harvesting") wild game is no different than picking wild mushrooms or eating "free range organic chicken" then I believe we will sway enough opinion to ensure huntings future...but we must stop those few rotten eggs that ruin a "hunters" image in the non hunting world...I.E. poachers, drunken garbage spewing hunters, game showing tied to the roof (exceptions are displays of horns of course...nothing to be ashamed of) causing the game to spoil on the ride home, etc...oh and we need to stand together as one with a lobby group in DC pushing our Government to crack down on the unhealthy food producers...we did it with tobacco...we can do it to GMO as well.

G-C-R

[darren]

Ok...since nobody bit on my smartass reply...basically poking fun at the seattle voters...here's a seriuos thought of hope...currently in the U.S. there is a movement of healthy eating...it seems we the people are getting tired of big box companies ruling the media with their toxic foods (high fructose corn syrup, pink sludge meat, chemical additives) and the movement is swaying towards organic foods...IF only we as hunters can join with organic food consumer groups to show that hunting (or "harvesting") wild game is no different than picking wild mushrooms or eating "free range organic chicken" then I believe we will sway enough opinion to ensure huntings future...but we must stop those few rotten eggs that ruin a "hunters" image in the non hunting world...I.E. poachers, drunken garbage spewing hunters, game showing tied to the roof (exceptions are displays of horns of course...nothing to be ashamed of) causing the game to spoil on the ride home, etc...oh and we need to stand together as one with a lobby group in DC pushing our Government to crack down on the unhealthy food producers...we did it with tobacco...we can do it to GMO as well.

Yeah man, I'm right there with you. That's a big part of why I'm getting into hunting. I want high quality organic meat and I want to be close to where my food comes from. Hank Shaw's got a pretty good blog that is pretty much what you're talking about here. Gateway articles on getting into hunting and fishing and foraging, recipes and so on. It's called Hunter Angler Gardener Cook.

[Loudscoutii]

Median voter theorem may be at play here. You can toss out all arguments on either side, because morals will lead the discussion. Not that I agree, but the broader definition of hunting ( man vs animal ) are pretty universally accepted, but the introduction of technology (whether it be dogs, or electronic calling) seems to be unfair to the ~93% who do not hunt. Whether or not they have any experience with how effective these techniques are becomes irrelevant.



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[buckfvr]

Youd be wise to plan on it happening............not a matter of if, but a matter of when.  It will wind up being another new law without scientific merit.  Of all the guys I know who bait extensively, most actually hurt their chances of success.  Way more to it than using a camera and throwing down some chow. 

Most successful mature buck killing guys I know do not use bait....they just learn their quarry.