Capital forest grouse

[Sleady1983]

Any hope in hunting grouse in capital forest? Never hunted them b4 what kind of habitat should I be on the look out for?

[billythekidrock]

I see a few a year and hear many more. Lots of people out and about at that time of year so I don't really hunt them up there.

Try some of the remote road and creek bottoms.

[Sleady1983]

Will do thanks for the tip

[metlhead]

To be more precise,  head out towards cedar creek facility past Bordeaux, turn right and over the hump, down into sherman basin. Pullout to the right just before the first campground and head up the the lost creek road. It's getting quite grown over, which means very grouse-y. Early season the side cover is very leafy and dense, but the birds will be in family groups, which will allow you to at least get the last one to flush. That road goes to the creek, no more bridge, justbfind a shallow riffle up above to cross, then back to the road and you can go a very,very long ways. When you turn back, it' s as if you are on a new road and the birds are back out gravel'n. Hit the side spurs too. Make sure you have your DISCO pass and look into a bandtail permit. So, how's that for help?

[Sleady1983]

Wow that was very specific! Yes big help much thanks!

[billythekidrock]

Just a reminder that areas you post on the internet are shared in perpetuity.

[metlhead]

Got nothin to hide and a wealth of info to share.

[billythekidrock]

But you just shared with him and thousands or other people. He should expect to have company if he plans to hunt there. Sometimes details are best sent by pm.

It may not hurt you now, but trust me, when you see your spot on the net it sucks. I am not saying don't share, just think about how you share it. Sharing it with a dozen people by pm is much better than posting it once in the open forum.

[ICEMAN]

Agree. Why share in the wide open, far better to share specific details behind the scenes.

[Sleady1983]

I hear what ur saying and if I get some company so be it lol, I love being in the woods just all the better if I get a little meat to bring home

[KenPCPilot]

Keep a sharp eye out where they fall after shot.  small birds knee high brush. 

[Sleady1983]

Will do:)

[singleshot12]

Got nothin to hide and a wealth of info to share.

Guess you're done hunting that area,cause it's over now

[metlhead]

Are you angry that I choose to give out wonderful personal info to someone who seeks advice. I remember a time when coming out of the field, loaded with birds, my dad and his buddies would just lay out the details to whomever they ran into. Wonderful friendships and hunt info for other areas came of it. Keep your little secrets if you want, I'll share mine as I please. BTW, I have told quite a few folks about that road, still have not seen another person on it, and manage to kill about fifteen ruffs and blues there every fall. Thank you

[singleshot12]

Are you angry that I choose to give out wonderful personal info to someone who seeks advice. I remember a time when coming out of the field, loaded with birds, my dad and his buddies would just lay out the details to whomever they ran into. Wonderful friendships and hunt info for other areas came of it. Keep your little secrets if you want, I'll share mine as I please. BTW, I have told quite a few folks about that road, still have not seen another person on it, and manage to kill about fifteen ruffs and blues there every fall. Thank you

Not just someone but 10k someones now:rolleyes:  Not angry just dismayed. I don't even live or hunt near that area. Just never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of people.Seen many good honey holes turn to muck this way. I would highly doubt you will see a grouse there again after next season. Oh well live and learn.

[Igottanewknee]

AND, your dad and his buddies could tell everyone they know that hunted, and it would be much less than have looked at this post already. Over 185 people in less than 24 hours! You see, the people posting about this want to protect it for you also. A PM just goes to that individual that asked the question. Just something to think about. Oh yea, nobody is mad, except the few people who know that area already and wished it was yours and their honey hole only, not us other 185 people (so far).

[metlhead]

Anyways , you are very welcome sleady, and thank you for the enthusiasm and gratitude. Don't mind the honey-hole cops,you and everyone else is welcome to hunt there. Most people wont even leave their rig to shoot grouse, let alone hike a grown over roadbed. To give is to reap-cieve. Through many years of sharing, I have aquired enough of these "secret" spots to last ten lifetimes. I just did a drive through this morning a few drainages over and the drumming was about normal. Blues were whomping at a good pitch, but scattered. If you can find your way to the E-line where the road connects to the old road past the prison, park just off the pavement at the bottom and head west along cedar creek. Search out the old road and make your way uphill. The ruffs will hug that creek and the blues be on the low ridges above. Pay particular attention to areas with 10+ year reprod. Roadbeds have the grit and alders provide food later in the season. Bandtails will drop from the ridgetop cedars to some of the little swamps along the creek. Don't hunt towards the prison, leave the quail alone, and chanterelles in October!

[tkropelnicki]

metlhead you can share the wisdom you want I will be rivht there taking it all in,i wish more folks were more like you

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[Fowlweather25]

 . Good on ya man.

[ICEMAN]

metlhead you can share the wisdom you want I will be rivht there taking it all in,i wish more folks were more like you

Do you guys remember when the old fishing and hunting news would post articles specifically listing areas, maps, and everything about those places?  I do. I remember areas getting absolutely pounded by guys looking for new areas. I knew and hunted a few of those spots prior to the articles and can guarantee you that they were terribly impacted from too much hunting pressure.

I would not wish this on anyone.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing what you know, but when it includes the specific road numbers, specific creek names, ridge names.....you are far far better off not sharing this information in the open. Way better to share with a few guys via a private email.

[billythekidrock]

metlhead you can share the wisdom you want I will be rivht there taking it all in,i wish more folks were more like you

Do you guys remember when the old fishing and hunting news would post articles specifically listing areas, maps, and everything about those places?  I do. I remember areas getting absolutely pounded by guys looking for new areas. I knew and hunted a few of those spots prior to the articles and can guarantee you that they were terribly impacted from too much hunting pressure.

I would not wish this on anyone.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing what you know, but when it includes the specific road numbers, specific creek names, ridge names.....you are far far better off not sharing this information in the open. Way better to share with a few guys via a private email.

Yep.
It started the end of steelies on the nasty and destroyed good bear areas up the near the nooch.

[singleshot12]

metlhead you can share the wisdom you want I will be rivht there taking it all in,i wish more folks were more like you

Do you guys remember when the old fishing and hunting news would post articles specifically listing areas, maps, and everything about those places?  I do. I remember areas getting absolutely pounded by guys looking for new areas. I knew and hunted a few of those spots prior to the articles and can guarantee you that they were terribly impacted from too much hunting pressure.

I would not wish this on anyone.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing what you know, but when it includes the specific road numbers, specific creek names, ridge names.....you are far far better off not sharing this information in the open. Way better to share with a few guys via a private email.

  exactly!  I'm glad somebody understands

[AspenBud]

metlhead you can share the wisdom you want I will be rivht there taking it all in,i wish more folks were more like you

Do you guys remember when the old fishing and hunting news would post articles specifically listing areas, maps, and everything about those places?  I do. I remember areas getting absolutely pounded by guys looking for new areas. I knew and hunted a few of those spots prior to the articles and can guarantee you that they were terribly impacted from too much hunting pressure.

I would not wish this on anyone.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with sharing what you know, but when it includes the specific road numbers, specific creek names, ridge names.....you are far far better off not sharing this information in the open. Way better to share with a few guys via a private email.

Well said. 

[cookingdaily]

It amazes me that a few of you are afraid of sharing what you know, but in the same breathe you complain that there is not enough happening to keep the sport going. Do you think a hundred people are going to drop everything and run to that spot.
What is the point of this site then if it's not to promote outdoorsmanship and hunting is it just to brag that you have a wealth of information that your not going to pass on.
I congratulate metlhead let the info run for those of us that are seeking it

[Dave Workman]

Yep.
It started the end of steelies on the nasty and destroyed good bear areas up the near the nooch.

 Steelhead runs were impacted far less by over-fishing by sportsmen, but — let's list them —
Growing seal and sea lion populations
gillnets
reductions in hatchery production

Bear hunting...F&H News maps had far less impact on bear hunting than forest practices and human encroachment.

[AspenBud]

Yep.
It started the end of steelies on the nasty and destroyed good bear areas up the near the nooch.

 Steelhead runs were impacted far less by over-fishing by sportsmen, but — let's list them —
Growing seal and sea lion populations
gillnets
reductions in hatchery production

You forgot dams.

[AKBowman]

Yep.
It started the end of steelies on the nasty and destroyed good bear areas up the near the nooch.

 Steelhead runs were impacted far less by over-fishing by sportsmen, but — let's list them —
Growing seal and sea lion populations
gillnets
reductions in hatchery production

Bear hunting...F&H News maps had far less impact on bear hunting than forest practices and human encroachment.

Human encroachment?!

Bear populations as a whole are out of control due to not enough of them being killed.