Why most probably don't see wolves as much of a public safety problem

[AspenBud]

Bigger fish to fry

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/05/16/can-cats-save-us-dogs-taking-bite-out-millions-more-children-bitten-than-postal/

[timberfaller]

WHY?

Because, wolves are warm and cuddly and make great house decorations for that country look!!

[idahohuntr]

Yes, of all the things people should worry about in regards to safety wolves certainly shouldn't be that high on the list...probably somewhere between drowning in the kitchen sink and being struck by lightning.    

[pianoman9701]

What a surprise - another "don't worry about the wolves" thread. You two should be easily identifiable by the wolf decals on your cars. 

[idahohuntr]

What a surprise - another "wolves will kill us all" fanatic.  You should be easily identifiable with your night light, pacifier, and look of sheer terror and panic when you are out in the woods where a woof' might eat you 

[pianoman9701]

Yes, and there's this article, too:

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Newsroom/News-Releases/2013/Tragic-Tally-More-Than-200-Reported-Child-Drownings-In-Pools-and-Spas-This-Summer/

Let's stop worrying about wolves because more people are killed in swimming pools and spas. This is as related as the one you posted. You two are unbelievable in your pandering to the pro-wolf movement.

[timberfaller]

Hey piano,  you don't see the sarcasm in my post??   My bumper sticker would be SSS!!

[snowpack]

Hey piano,  you don't see the sarcasm in my post??   My bumper sticker would be SSS!!

SSS= smooch, squeeze and snuggle  

[bigmacc]

Ok, trying to stay a bit neutral here by mostly observing, with a few personal events thrown in here and there.Most are skirted over by the players.As for you idahohunter,from a longtime hunter and a person whose family DOES have close to 100 years of family hunting tradition(which reading your posts i find it hard to believe that you do)...You come off as someone quite smug, and in fact the same kind of person you accuse others of being,only a polar opposite.By the way i DO have pics to prove my hunting tradition and my families,they are on this site and have been posted.My cousin was a U of W graduate and was employed by the Idaho dept of fish and game back in the 60,s,70,s and 80,s.He had degrees in biology,crimanal justice and animal husbandry(his masters was in biology).I will not mention his name!,but will tell you that he retired a few years ago after a 38 year career with Idaho fish and game.I cannot speak personaly of hunting in Idaho or the wolf issue in idaho(my family has only hunted Washington) tho i will tell you his observations of the wolf(and predator impact in general) in the state of Idaho are much different than your obsevations.You will not get more information from me  about heard size or the numbers of deer or elk in Idaho, because i dont know.I will tell you however that predators (and wolves in general) have made a huge impact on the decline in raw numbers of elk and deer in Idaho(out of the mouth of someone i actually know and respect). I am a hunter,thats all,not a debater, or a person with an agenda or a man with an axe to grind,just a hunter who 50 years ago seen a lot more game in this state and less predators.In  the last 5 years in our old haunts, we have seen more cougar and wolf sign than we have documented in the last 40 years combined!Seen 5 cougars in a 4 day span just a few weeks ago!Washington state is at a crossroads concerning the predator issue IMHO,i am very passionate about our mule deer in this state,  there has to be an iron fist approach on the predator issue(comming from the minds and mouths of people i respect a tad more than you).You will rebutt with land issues,harsh winters etc that are effecting the downturn in numbers,those have allways been somewhat of a constant with the rise and fall of heard size.I,ve seen winter kills(with proof, 8mil. film)in this state that would make your jaw drop.Film my dad took back in the late 60,s in eastern wa.of ranchers burning piles of dead deer and livestock after a tough winter with temps at minus 67 degrees,thousands and thousands of deer were lost that winter but bounced back so i wont be drawn in,i am talking predators and thats what my opinions are about in this post....good luck in the field and shoot straight.

[Romulus1297]

idahohunter will still call you a scared child with a nightlight and pacifier even with your families history.

[pianoman9701]

Hey piano,  you don't see the sarcasm in my post??   My bumper sticker would be SSS!!

Yes, I wasn't referring to your post, TF.

[MADMAX]

http://saveelk.com/

do the research boys

[timberfaller]

Thanks for the link madmax!!!

and pianoman, thanks!

[wolfbait]

What a surprise - another "don't worry about the wolves" thread. You two should be easily identifiable by the wolf decals on your cars. 

It amazes me that the agenda driven pro-wolf crowd still tries to down play the impact wolves and other uncontrolled predators will and are having on the ungulates in WA. on hunting sites. Perhaps if we hadn't already seen the destruction in other states they could get some traction among the gullible. The Pro-wolf crowd has a job to do for the environmentalists at the USFWS, USFS and state game agencies, convince everyone more habitat is needed not predator control.

[MADMAX]

Timberfaller
totally welcome
I found that site years back wehn I hunted the bitterroots/ Darby area
Locals there know the full impact
Sh*t on sight
saw lots of tracks heard lots of howls
never got a shot at a legal elk
shame

 I saw tracks this year over in the Colockum and heard howls at night
wont be long