Why most probably don't see wolves as much of a public safety problem

[bigmacc]

Hope people realize that this "idahohunter" fella just might not be the real deal. :dunno:Maybe i,m not all the way to bright on this topic but i,ve tried to get caught up with the banter going   back and forth and tho there is some extreme views from both sides, his views and conversation seem to (at least for me)tip the scale to the "wacko"side of  the scale of which he himself is accusing others of on the flipside....My  ....He has called out others about their history and hunting heritage but as far as i know he has stated he and his family have 100 or so years of hunting in there family but i have only seen a few generic pics of his hunts . With that many  years "idaho" you should have a least a few more from the "good ole days".We actually have 1000,s in all of our years here in Washington,i do understand not wanting to post pics because of "information" and i do respect that aspect of posting.If you call others out you need   to walk your talk also.Once  again...my  . Sorry to the powers to be,i know  this may be a little of topic,once again my apoligies.

[idahohuntr]

Maybe i,m not all the way to bright on this topic

Looks like you nailed it right there
   

[bearpaw]

I guess it's pretty easy to view wolves as no threat to public safety or well being when you do not live in the middle of them. 

This whole topic was a pretty weak attempt to minimalize the impacts of wolves. 

[idahohuntr]

This whole topic was a pretty weak attempt to minimalize the impacts of wolves. 

I don't think Aspen or anyone on here has any interest in minimizing impacts of anything...although it does break up the boring weak-minded attempts to drum up false hysteria about wolves by re-posting garbage circulated in Idaho 6-10 years ago   

[bearpaw]

No doubt about it, a very weak attempt.... 

[pianoman9701]

"I don't think Aspen or anyone on here has any interest in minimizing impacts of anything..." Really? Because that's exactly what was intended by posting this article; minimizing the effect of wolves by citing statistics of dog attacks. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. The article cited has nothing at all to do with wolves yet it was posted in the wolves section. If you don't see this is an attempt to minimize the negative impacts of wolves, you should see a neurosurgeon immediately. It's either a tumor or a large, unfilled cavity.

[AspenBud]

"I don't think Aspen or anyone on here has any interest in minimizing impacts of anything..." Really? Because that's exactly what was intended by posting this article; minimizing the effect of wolves by citing statistics of dog attacks. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. The article cited has nothing at all to do with wolves yet it was posted in the wolves section. If you don't see this is an attempt to minimize the negative impacts of wolves, you should see a neurosurgeon immediately. It's either a tumor or a large, unfilled cavity.

I'm guessing most "city" people recognize that they don't live in a sheltered country existence where wolves are the "big" concern.

When you go out and talk to people about wolves attacking scores of people or eating babies there is a reason they don't listen to you. The truth is not your friend is it?

Heck statistically you've already had a very good day if you survived the car ride to a location where you could encounter a wolf let alone be attacked by one.

[snowpack]

I think most of those derived statistics are for wolves living in areas with low human density.  Have they really generated any meaningful sample sizes for wolves living in close proximity to an urban-yuppy population?  Take Alpine Lakes for example...more people and dogs roaming through there than most can imagine.  The Enchantments require a lottery draw many months in advance just to get a camping permit. 

[AspenBud]

I think most of those derived statistics are for wolves living in areas with low human density.  Have they really generated any meaningful sample sizes for wolves living in close proximity to an urban-yuppy population?  Take Alpine Lakes for example...more people and dogs roaming through there than most can imagine.  The Enchantments require a lottery draw many months in advance just to get a camping permit.

Just a guess, but I suspect this is what will happen to a lot of wolves in more truly populated areas...

http://www.kptv.com/story/21890303/cougar-dead-after-being-hit-on-i-5-in-wa

http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/jun/19/black-bear-dies-car-interstate-205-hit/

That doesn't even address parvo, various toxins, more people will firearms, cr** loads of dogs, etc.

[bearpaw]

"I don't think Aspen or anyone on here has any interest in minimizing impacts of anything..." Really? Because that's exactly what was intended by posting this article; minimizing the effect of wolves by citing statistics of dog attacks. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. The article cited has nothing at all to do with wolves yet it was posted in the wolves section. If you don't see this is an attempt to minimize the negative impacts of wolves, you should see a neurosurgeon immediately. It's either a tumor or a large, unfilled cavity.

I'm guessing most "city" people recognize that they don't live in a sheltered country existence where wolves are the "big" concern.

When you go out and talk to people about wolves attacking scores of people or eating babies there is a reason they don't listen to you. The truth is not your friend is it?

Heck statistically you've already had a very good day if you survived the car ride to a location where you could encounter a wolf let alone be attacked by one.

The admission, I knew it was a lame attempt to minimize wolf impacts. 

[bigmacc]

Maybe i,m not all the way to bright on this topic

Looks like you nailed it right there
   

Well thank you for letting me know i got one right!...one point for me ...Think i "NAILED" this one also,and i quote "HIS VIEWS AND CONVERSATION SEEM(AT LEAST FOR ME)TO TIP THE SCALE TO THE WACKO SIDE OF WHICH HE HIMSELF IS ACCUSING OTHERS OF,ON THE FLIPSIDE"....hope this ones worth 2 points

[hardrichard]

Hey Idahohuntr since you love wolves so much why don't you dress up like one and go run around during hunting season in the bush!!!  

[kentrek]

It will be interesting to see what happens when wolves really hit western wa really hard...(if they ever do)

If atm we have cats an bears that can kill us, then add wolves...so our odds of getting eaten by a preditor go up by 50%  

Def gona be Rollin the dice stepping into the woods with those critters



 

[Claymore15]

I don't post here much, and might have missed it but what are wolves good for in the modern age.

[wolfbait]

I don't post here much, and might have missed it but what are wolves good for in the modern age.

  Target practice.