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Youth license problems?
« on: May 22, 2014, 08:24:45 AM »
So looking for input on a problem I had trying to buy my 9 year old step sons hunting license last night. First off he hunted last year with his dad and had a license so he should have been in the system, however when I put in his social security number last night it said customer not found and prompted me to set up a new wild Id and profile for him. His dad did not have any of last years stuff so I went ahead and set up the profile. When it got to the items to purchase there was no option for a hunting license or special hunts except moose sheep and goat. I went ahead and bought those so it would assign him his new wild Id. I assumed it would update after and let me go back in and buy his hunting license but it didn't and I can still not purchase his hunting license online in order to get his other special permits put in. Any thoughts?

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2014, 08:32:29 AM »
The first time buying a hunting license requires proof of having passed a hunter education course. So if you had used his WILD ID number from last year you would have been okay. You probably should call the WDFW in Olympia and get this straightened out ASAP. Call 360-902-2515 and do it early because they will be very busy answering the phone today.
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2014, 08:35:42 AM »
I will give them a call thanks for the number bobcat. My wife was headed to a license dealer this morning but i will try this first thanks.

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2014, 08:42:04 AM »
You cannot purchase a hunting license for anyone born after 1/1/1972 who has not provided physical proof of hunter education. Going to a license dealer without proof will not work.

You must either find his WILD ID that was used to previously purchase a license (which establishes that he did in fact pass hunter education), or provide proof of hunter education completion.

It is possible that he hunted last year with a hunter education deferral.
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2014, 08:47:52 AM »
You cannot purchase a hunting license for anyone born after 1/1/1972 who has not provided physical proof of hunter education. Going to a license dealer without proof will not work.

You must either find his WILD ID that was used to previously purchase a license (which establishes that he did in fact pass hunter education), or provide proof of hunter education completion.

It is possible that he hunted last year with a hunter education deferral.

He passed the hunters education class last year before his dad bought his license but the license dealer may have used the deferral on accident or something :dunno:.  I have a call into the department to try and figure it out, ofcourse i got the machine  :bash: hopefully they call back.

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 09:14:23 AM »
Did he receive his hunter education certification card? It's orange. With that, you are golden. If not, you'll have to order another, I believe.

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2014, 09:31:39 AM »
You cannot purchase a hunting license for anyone born after 1/1/1972 who has not provided physical proof of hunter education. Going to a license dealer without proof will not work.

You must either find his WILD ID that was used to previously purchase a license (which establishes that he did in fact pass hunter education), or provide proof of hunter education completion.

It is possible that he hunted last year with a hunter education deferral.

He passed the hunters education class last year before his dad bought his license but the license dealer may have used the deferral on accident or something :dunno:.  I have a call into the department to try and figure it out, ofcourse i got the machine  :bash: hopefully they call back.

The education deferral is not the likely culprit here.
(1) He doesn't meet the age requirement
(2) You must fill out an application
(3) There is approximately a 2 week turnaround time for the forms to be processed
(4) If he did get a deferral, he would have had to purchase his license directly from Olympia

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2014, 10:23:57 AM »
Got it all worked out. Talked to wdfw and they refunded and cancelled my purchase from last night. They were able to find last years info off looking up his name. His dad had not set his profile up with his social security number on it so that's why I could not find him in the system. Its all updated now and hes been put in on all special apps.

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2014, 10:25:05 AM »
 :tup:
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2014, 10:51:22 AM »
I did not get a social number until the age of 14 when I was finally able to apply for one at the post office.  Are they assigning them at birth now? :dunno:  Sorry I don't have kids so I don't know.

I guess they would need to in order to create anchor babies, wouldn't they?  Interesting!

I also had to go to the post office to sign up for the draft when I turned 16.  Do kids have to do that these days or is that a thing of the past too?


Glad you got it all worked out 180!  I wasn't holding out much hope for you.  Way to get it done :tup:
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2014, 10:59:43 AM »
You can get a Soc Sec # right away when they are born.
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2014, 11:08:40 AM »
You can get a Soc Sec # right away when they are born.

Maybe I just applied for the paper card when I was 14 :dunno:  The cobwebs in my head might be making it difficult to remember correctly. ;)
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 11:48:40 AM »
You can get a Soc Sec # right away when they are born.

Maybe I just applied for the paper card when I was 14 :dunno:  The cobwebs in my head might be making it difficult to remember correctly. ;)

You are probably remembering correctly,  they are not assigned automatically.  I didn't get mine until I was 16 and wanted to get a job.

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2014, 12:58:47 PM »
I noticed something too. When I try to enter online to submit apps it will not recognize his social security # as I don't believe it was a requirement when I purchased his license. It would only recognize the option if I used his wild id #. I was able to submit just fine with this. Just go to a local license sales location and have them look it up. Most likely he now has 2 wild id #'s as he had his original one and the one you set up. I know this is possible as they did this with my son also. My son had a wild id last year for his fishing punchcard but they gave him a different # this year on accident after he passed his hunters safety course. I just need to make sure to only use the correct wild id # from now as only one of them has the info he passed his hunters safety.

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2014, 01:00:11 PM »
Disregard, looks like you have it squared away.

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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 03:36:54 PM »
Got it all worked out. Talked to wdfw and they refunded and cancelled my purchase from last night. They were able to find last years info off looking up his name. His dad had not set his profile up with his social security number on it so that's why I could not find him in the system. Its all updated now and hes been put in on all special apps.

Exactly what I was going to say.  Found this out with one of my kids a few years ago but I called first thing and it was no prob.
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2014, 04:19:02 PM »
You cannot purchase a hunting license for anyone born after 1/1/1972 who has not provided physical proof of hunter education. Going to a license dealer without proof will not work.

You must either find his WILD ID that was used to previously purchase a license (which establishes that he did in fact pass hunter education), or provide proof of hunter education completion.

It is possible that he hunted last year with a hunter education deferral.

He passed the hunters education class last year before his dad bought his license but the license dealer may have used the deferral on accident or something :dunno:.  I have a call into the department to try and figure it out, ofcourse i got the machine  :bash: hopefully they call back.

The education deferral is not the likely culprit here.
(1) He doesn't meet the age requirement

 Washington does not have a minimum age requirement.
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2014, 04:23:19 PM »
They do have a minimum age to qualify for the one year deferral.

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2014, 04:26:07 PM »
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10 years old minimum for deferral.
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Re: Youth license problems?
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2014, 04:29:55 PM »
They do have a minimum age to qualify for the one year deferral.
Right, I was referring to hunter ed
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 06:52:20 PM »
You cannot purchase a hunting license for anyone born after 1/1/1972 who has not provided physical proof of hunter education. Going to a license dealer without proof will not work.

You must either find his WILD ID that was used to previously purchase a license (which establishes that he did in fact pass hunter education), or provide proof of hunter education completion.

It is possible that he hunted last year with a hunter education deferral.

He passed the hunters education class last year before his dad bought his license but the license dealer may have used the deferral on accident or something :dunno:.  I have a call into the department to try and figure it out, ofcourse i got the machine  :bash: hopefully they call back.

The education deferral is not the likely culprit here.
(1) He doesn't meet the age requirement

 Washington does not have a minimum age requirement.
For a normal license you're correct. He means for a hunter education deferral, and for that the minimum age is 10.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=232-12-228
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