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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #180 on: October 13, 2014, 07:29:16 PM »
Here is more ammunition for VOTE NO on I-594 (The Anti-Gun Initiative):

"I-594 unenforceable"

http://www.sanjuanislander.com/letters-to-the-editor/17301

We tend to preach to the choir in this forum; please get the VOTE NO on I-594 message out to those that are sitting on the fence regarding this issue.  Write letters to the editor of your local newspapers.  Comment on editorials and other letters to the editors of your local newspapers.

Please make sure ALL of your freedom-loving American family, friends, and colleagues are registered to VOTE and that they VOTE NO on I-594 (The Anti-Gun Initiative) regardless of whether they own guns or not.  I-594 is BAD for all of us!

VOTE YES on I-591 (Protect Our Gun Rights)

VOTE NO on I-594 (The Anti-Gun Initiative)

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #181 on: October 14, 2014, 10:56:11 AM »
I wrote to my Sheriff (Stevens County) and here is his reply:

"I am on record as being opposed to 594, and have allowed my name to be used by the NRA on their list of Sheriffs against 594.  I don’t believe that it solves any problem that it’s authors intended it to.  591 is troubling as well.  Therefore, I do not support either initiative.  "

 

Sincerely,

 

Kendle Allen

Stevens County Sheriff

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #182 on: October 14, 2014, 11:17:45 AM »
Just heard on the radio that a majority of gun owners polled support 594, I don't remember the percentage.

They didn't mention whether they read it or not, that's the problem with buying elections these days.  You put out what message you want people to hear and they take your word for it.

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #183 on: October 15, 2014, 12:11:37 AM »
I went to the Bremerton Gun Show on Saturday and picked up a couple "Yes! on 591" signs and put them in my yard. Then, yesterday the UPS man delivered about 10 signs to my house. I've got far too many. If anyone wants some free signage to post, please send me a PM and I'll get them to you.

Got all those signs passed out and displayed. Thanx Silverdalesauer. Hopefully they'll garner a few more votes for 591 and against 594.
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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #184 on: October 15, 2014, 09:24:39 AM »
" I have hunted almost every day of my life, the rest have been wasted"

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #185 on: October 15, 2014, 09:33:23 AM »
At a glance I can't find-Where do you get/buy the signs?  I have lots of yard.

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #186 on: October 15, 2014, 09:49:51 AM »
Gabby Giffords has a mental issue stemming from being shot in the face. It's called traumatic liberalism. It affects people who are exposed to whining liberals after being shot in the face while they recover in the hospital.
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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #187 on: October 16, 2014, 10:39:55 AM »
Gabby Giffords has a mental issue stemming from being shot in the face. It's called traumatic liberalism. It affects people who are exposed to whining liberals after being shot in the face while they recover in the hospital.

I really like how she and her husband like to tell the news that they are going to the firing range to shoot their guns, BS. Pot calling the kettle black imo.

It just like the president skeet/trap shooting....

All this is, is a tax increase for the state. Our state can legalize drugs but take away your guns? go figure.




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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #188 on: October 16, 2014, 10:46:56 AM »
Gabby Giffords has a mental issue stemming from being shot in the face. It's called traumatic liberalism. It affects people who are exposed to whining liberals after being shot in the face while they recover in the hospital.

I really like how she and her husband like to tell the news that they are going to the firing range to shoot their guns, BS. Pot calling the kettle black imo.

It just like the president skeet/trap shooting....

All this is, is a tax increase for the state. Our state can legalize drugs but take away your guns? go figure.

She and her husband are as two-faced as people can be. They both have sworn to uphold the Constitution during their careers. When it hits close to home, it's time to forget those pledges, apparently. She's Michael Bloomberg's sweet girl and poster child. "Look at poor Gabby. See what guns do all by themselves?"
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace https://valoaneducator.tv/johnwallace-2014743

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #189 on: October 16, 2014, 11:00:48 AM »
Gabby Giffords has a mental issue stemming from being shot in the face. It's called traumatic liberalism. It affects people who are exposed to whining liberals after being shot in the face while they recover in the hospital.

I really like how she and her husband like to tell the news that they are going to the firing range to shoot their guns, BS. Pot calling the kettle black imo.

It just like the president skeet/trap shooting....

All this is, is a tax increase for the state. Our state can legalize drugs but take away your guns? go figure.

She and her husband are as two-faced as people can be. They both have sworn to uphold the Constitution during their careers. When it hits close to home, it's time to forget those pledges, apparently. She's Michael Bloomberg's sweet girl and poster child. "Look at poor Gabby. See what guns do all by themselves?"

The NRA needs to get their head out of their..... and start focusing more on state initiatives along with federal anti-gun issues. I would donate money if they would help more in localized and state issues like this. This is the new anti-gun wave to attack at of a more "local" level. Maybe I am wrong but it seems that this initiative will win. I have not saw one commercial against this initiative 594.

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #190 on: October 16, 2014, 11:04:22 AM »
Just heard on the radio that a majority of gun owners polled support 594, I don't remember the percentage.

They didn't mention whether they read it or not, that's the problem with buying elections these days.  You put out what message you want people to hear and they take your word for it.

POLLS aren't worth anything unless they are statistically valid.  It is likely that this POLL is just another manipulated lie devised to mislead the undecided voters.

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #191 on: October 16, 2014, 11:16:09 AM »
Just heard on the radio that a majority of gun owners polled support 594, I don't remember the percentage.

They didn't mention whether they read it or not, that's the problem with buying elections these days.  You put out what message you want people to hear and they take your word for it.

POLLS aren't worth anything unless they are statistically valid.  It is likely that this POLL is just another manipulated lie devised to mislead the undecided voters.

I see no reason to doubt it.  They tell lies and nobody calls them on it.  Big money, many advertisements and a bunch of people that don't think for themselves.

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #192 on: October 16, 2014, 11:57:23 AM »
I think a good pitch on this is to stress the cronie 1% angle. (Im not moved by this argument but bear with me its a sals pitch)

Our politics are divided into 2 catagories. Right brain (logic) and Left brain (emotion).

There has been a lot of pushing/selling that our country is failing because of the 1%ers... And by golly who is pushing this? a bunch of 1%ers that have armed gaurds and are buying tanks!

Try talking to your more emotional friends from thier point of view and you will likely get more traction. (I know its difficult however arguing the same way isnt working)  :twocents:
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #193 on: October 16, 2014, 11:58:30 AM »
I think a good pitch on this is to stress the cronie 1% angle. (Im not moved by this argument but bear with me its a sals pitch)

Our politics are divided into 2 catagories. Right brain (logic) and Left brain (emotion).

There has been a lot of pushing/selling that our country is failing because of the 1%ers... And by golly who is pushing this? a bunch of 1%ers that have armed gaurds and are buying tanks!

Try talking to your more emotional friends from thier point of view and you will likely get more traction. (I know its difficult however arguing the same way isnt working)  :twocents:

Great point.
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Re: Initiatives 594 and 591
« Reply #194 on: October 16, 2014, 12:23:51 PM »
The NRA needs to get their head out of their..... and start focusing more on state initiatives along with federal anti-gun issues. I would donate money if they would help more in localized and state issues like this. This is the new anti-gun wave to attack at of a more "local" level. Maybe I am wrong but it seems that this initiative will win. I have not saw one commercial against this initiative 594.

In defense of the NRA:

The NRA is a leader in the battle against I-594.

Brian Judy – Washington State liaison for the NRA has been fighting against I-594 on our behalf. 

Watch the video:
Senate Law & Justice Committee; Public: SI 591, SI 594; Wednesday January 29th 2014, 1:30PM
http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2014010154#start=729&stop=1043

Watch the video:
Thursday June 26th 2014, 1:00PM
The Seattle Times Editorial Board interviews proponents and opponents of Initiative 594 (concerns background checks for firearm sales and transfers).
http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2014060083


NRA-ILA Field Representatives are in Washington
 
Keely Hopkins
Keely@NRAILAFrontlines.com
(541) 910-3395
Mill Creek, WA   

Adina Hicks
Adina@NRAILAFrontlines.com
(425) 351-4088
Lakewood, WA

The NRA has set up a special website to inform people about I-594:

VOTE NO Initiative 594
https://www.voteno594.com/


The NRA sends out many ALERTS:

Many of the ALERTs they send out have actions and articles related to fighting against I-594.
If you are not already signed up for their ALERTS, please consider signing up.
https://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/secure/stay-informed.aspx

Washington measure to increase gun background checks bleeds support
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2014/10/washington-measure-to-increase-gun-background-checks-bleeds-support.aspx

NRA donates $150K more in fight against I-594
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2014/10/washington-nra-donates-$150k-more-in-fight-against-i-594.aspxl

I-594 Unenforceable
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2014/10/i-594-unenforceable.aspx

Washington: Washington State Republican Party Opposes Anti-Gun Initiative 594
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/10/washington-washington-state-republican-party-opposes-anti-gun-initiative-594.aspx

Attention Washington Second Amendment Supporters: You Need to Know Why It's Critical to Vote No on Initiative 594 (Watch the video)
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/10/washington-attention-washington-second-amendment-supporters.aspx

Washington Gun Control Ballot Measure Would Criminalize Common Common Firing Range Occurrence
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2014/9/washington-gun-control-ballot-measure-would-criminalize-common-common-firing-range-occurance.aspx

Washington: Voters in the Evergreen State are Urged to Visit VoteNo594.com
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/9/washington-voters-in-the-evergreen-state-are-urged-to-visit-voteno594.aspx

Washington: Money starts to flow in for gun initiatives
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2014/8/washington-money-starts-to-flow-in-for-gun-initiatives.aspx









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