Local Indians carrying rifles during bow season and hunting deer

[kingsalmonkllr77]

I was with my buddy hunting an area that was gated in all other months except the 20 day firewood permit season, and low and behold two trucks carrying two indians a piece with rifles loaded and ready come around the corner.  They stopped and talked to us and wanted to know if we had seen anything.  I asked them what they were hunting for and they said deer, Wtf I exclaimed I asked them if they were legal by hunting with rifles and they said yes.  He also said he was allowed to take 8 deer and between the 4 idiots they could have 32 which could be any deer.  Now for us during archery it is a 2pt min or anterless and rifles it is just 2 pt min.  Now I talked to another guy who had been hunting up there since archery reopened and he said the first 3 days he seen deer and those idiots and since the 23Rd had not seen a deer.  I seen 10 deer a day during rifle season including 3 dandy 3 and 4 pts, but yesterday we hunted for 8 hours and seen 1 grouse 2 miles up a gated portion of road.  I don't understand how they can hunt during archery on non tribal land but we cant hunt their reservations.  A bunch of BS and they have depleted one of the only good blacktail area's I know.

[Ryan]

I don't know what to tell you........     I feel your pain though.

[bobcat]

Nobody understands how or why the government can let this stuff happen. But it does and there is no end in sight.

[HighCountry10]

Something must be done!  Same type of thing happening to the Ellensburg area bulls.

[kingsalmonkllr77]

The first time I seen these guys was during the draw only archery elk hunt in the nooksack area and they had keys to get into the old crown pacific gate and were also carrying rifles.  I think it should require a passport for them to leave their reservations considering they are a sovereign nation and there should be border crossings on all four sides of their lands with patrols each way.

[DeerHarvester]

    What can be done.... Nothing the government is F'D up in this regard.   

[3dsheetmetal]

If only the settlers had a couple of these things would be so much better now.

[HawkenBob]

Usaully these tribes have no designated land on res were this kind of hunting is even possible because of urban spead and whatnot. So they have designated lands off res. Muck, Puyallup,s and so on. You could give them there own land to hunt, were we couldent. Then they'd be in charge of there own game. But has its own issues as most likely, as we'd lose more land...

The Quinalts have a season from July to Dec. Any method, any game, any time. With very libral bags...

They cant go off res, and you cant go on.

It aint just the hunting. Fishing too.

But, we cant change it. Its Federal. Unless you read the treaty, you really wont understand. And if you have your amazed at the obsurdity. I know I am. Its way out of date.

So some live on, fustraded and voicing it, and some reach new levels of ignorance and show it to everyone.

[buckhorn2]

Heard two quinaults shot 2 bulls up the wishka in a farmers field and got ticketed by the game wardens for hunting off reservation.

[MAVsled]

I took a hike-bike on a gated road doing some after season scouting yesterday.
3 miles in or so and I hear what sounds like a truck coming up the road behind me. thought it would be a timber company vehicle but NO, pickup with tribal hunters and 2 of them in the pickup bed, sitting on cargo box, carrying rifles.

what I'd like to know is; why do they get gate keys on private timberlands?!!

let em hunt, they claim it is their right, yep shoot em up kinda of fellas was MHO after they briefly talked with me... but MAKE THEM WALK OR BIKE IN.
Then they wouldn't pile the deer on trucks and maybe take them one at a time or not at all.

[bobcat]

what I'd like to know is; why do they get gate keys on private timberlands?!!

GREAT question. I was wondering the same thing myself. It just doesn't make sense.

Surely the feds aren't requiring the private timber companies to provide keys to these poachers/hunters?   

[logger]

being in the industry, what usually what happens is the tribes put heat on the timber co. for access or the hold up cutting permits and road building such as bridges and such. every permit has to be reviewied by what ever tribe could be affected, so the co. caves in so that it does'nt hold up production or cost more money in reviews. which is *censored*.

[blindpig]

I hate to say this but its only going to get worse.  With all of the indian casino's, they are making money hand over fist and are buying up tons of land.  I know in recent years they have bought huge portions of land in the peninsula area (forks)  They will essentially buy a bigger reservation. It sucks.

[kingsalmonkllr77]

For years I looked for a good blacktail area and had almost given up until I found this area.  Some of the land you can access is virtually unhunted without the aid of atv's.  The fact that they have no remorse and could care less about their impact on the land us hunters fund is unbelievable.  They have more rights than we ever had and cause more people to go broke(casino) I thought we won that war.

[logger]

we will never win that war to many liberals in this state. I have a friend who works for Q 13 news and have asked him why the media won't expose them for what they truly are and he said they wouldn't touch it because they have a lotta power in oly. " native pride" I would like to see some of it.