Local Indians carrying rifles during bow season and hunting deer

[HawkenBob]

Heard two quinaults shot 2 bulls up the wishka in a farmers field and got ticketed by the game wardens for hunting off reservation.

Sad thing is nothing will happen. And they know it. Thats why they do it. There untouchable from any state law. State will not fight them. Its a loosing battle.

[TheHunt]

I hate to say this but its only going to get worse.  With all of the indian casino's, they are making money hand over fist and are buying up tons of land.  I know in recent years they have bought huge portions of land in the peninsula area (forks)  They will essentially buy a bigger reservation. It sucks.

Then why do hunters go into those places?  I have never put a foot into an Indian Casino and never will for that reason. 

[pendoreilleadventures]

I work for the Kalispel Indian Tribe and It is my understanding that natives even with treaty hunting rights can still only hunt land that are unclaimed aka national forest,state land and some state parks if in their treaty. it is ILLEGAL for them to hunt Private lands out of season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hillbilly270]

Heard two quinaults shot 2 bulls up the wishka in a farmers field and got ticketed by the game wardens for hunting off reservation.

I live in the same valley where these two elk got shot, but i don't know if they got ticketed or not.  I know they actually went to the landowners house and asked if they could drive in his field to get thier elk.  he told them to F'off and if they tried to drive in he would shoot them.  They had to cut'em up and pack em out.

[Dmanmastertracker]

I work for the Kalispel Indian Tribe and It is my understanding that natives even with treaty hunting rights can still only hunt land that are unclaimed aka national forest,state land and some state parks if in their treaty. it is ILLEGAL for them to hunt Private lands out of season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 I was told, at least by Okanogan and Ferry County officials that the tribe's can hunt private land within the treaty sessions area, if they notify the landowner first before entering.

[buckhorn2]

Hillbilly it might have been because one of the indians is a retired grays harbor sheriff that they may not have got tickets but the story around our town is they did.

[clindsayrun]

Just about ten years ago now I took a course at the University of Washington called "American Indians and the Law."
I signed up for the class because, like many of you, I didn't understand why tribal populations in Washington are given such lax regulation when it comes to hunting and fishing. 

Long story short, back in the 1800's plenty of treaties were signed guaranteeing the tribes the same rights they possess today.  The Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld these treaties. As Treaty Law in the United States is set in stone.  The only ones to blame are the original settlers of the Pacific North West who wrote such skewed treaties.

Nothing is ever going to change and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

All one can do is hope that the majority of tribal sportsmen have an understanding of their responsibilities to the great outdoors, the sporting community and the rest of us.

[HawkenBob]

There are 24 tribes in wash who can hunt off res as long as they have proven ancestrial hunting took place there. All 24 tribes have proved it.

Heres more for anyone who wants to know more.

"In the mid-1800s, Isaac Stevens, the first governor of the Washington Territory, negotiated treaties with Native American tribes for the peaceful settlement of their traditional lands. By signing the “Stevens Treaties,” tribes reserved the right to continue traditional activities, such as hunting.

The 24 tribes that have off-reservation hunting rights in Washington can set hunting regulations for their tribal members. Those tribes can allow members to hunt on open and unclaimed land – public land that is managed in a way that is consistent with hunting – within their ceded area or within an area proven to have been traditionally used by the tribe."

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/tribal/index.html

[fishunt247]

I think it is frustrating as well...but don't forget about the things Indians do for game and fish as well. The Yakama Nation has done more for upland birds and upland bird hunting on their reservation than the Region 3 game department has ever thought about doing. And for fish, our salmon and steelhead runs would be extra *censored*ty if the Indians didn't help (money, planted fish, etc), that is, on some rivers anyway. As far as deer and elk go, they may not do anything for them, but it is their right to hunt on ceded land, nothing we can do about it. They might come around, like the San Carlos or Jicarilla, eventually.

[Firstlight]

2 four point bulls in Acme ( Nooksack Herd ) where killed a week ago on a farmers private land. The farmer waited till they just about had them drug out of there then called the game warden. They ticketed them for hunting on private land.   and took the animals to the food bank. The sad thing is that they will probably find a way to take it to there tribal law enforcement or some B.S. and get it dropped. 

[Shannon]

fishunt247,
Not to single you out but what planet have you been on to think the fishing would be worse off without indians. Come to where I live and watch nets stretched across the entire river and see the bi-catch of endangered species on a daily basis. Or watch them set there nets and get drunk and forget about them for a week. Or see entire nets suspended in the air full of rotting fish when the tide goes out at the rivers mouth. Or watch humpy after humpy floating down river whole after they through them away out of there nets while fishing for other fish. Yeah, we would be in a world of hurt if there weren't any indians to safe guard our natural resources.

[WOODS]

I owned land on the westside near LaPush and the horror stories I could tell you about the tribes elk slaughter. The Govenor gets campaign funding from WA tribes. You figure it out. Damn Boldt Desicion.  

[ICEMAN]

I have never put a foot into an Indian Casino and never will for that reason. 

I totally agree. I may not be able to stop the tribes from hunting, but I will stop them from getting any of my discretionary cash.

There are 24 tribes in wash who can hunt off res as long as they have proven ancestrial hunting took place there. All 24 tribes have proved it.

How can the puyallup tribe prove that it hunted St Helens Johnson Ridge at over 4500' elevation in the winter. They now just drive up and blast a cow or bull from the pavement with a rifle. Have they convinced someone they used to travel over 100 miles away in the winter to hunt elk?

How about the "aancestral" hunting of Rocky Mountain Elk, introduced into this state in 1913? How can the Yakima tribe claim ancestral hunting for any elk?

This state sucks *censored*.
If I was elected President, I would end all the treaties by declaring war against the tribes for an hour or so. Trash the treaties, and welcome the damn tribes to the United states, now go get a job and pay taxes like the rest of us!  

[billythekidrock]

The Govenor gets campaign funding from WA tribes. You figure it out.   

She has done alot for those bribes...I mean tribes.
Here is a bit of a letter that came to me about the tribes and the Gov.

"The treaties established Indian tribes as sovereign nations, distinct and separate governments within the United States. In Washington, I’m proud to say that we have healthy working relationships with the 29 federally recognized tribes in our state.
 
The Governor’s Office of Indian Affairs takes the lead in promoting these relationships, helping state agencies operate in ways that are sensitive to the needs of tribal members and that support tribal self-sufficiency.
 
On Aug. 4, 1989, the state and its federally recognized tribes signed the Centennial Accord, which committed to maintaining mutually respectful government-to-government relationships. Each state agency, including **********, wrote a working plan to achieve the goals of the accord. If you’re interested, you can read our plan on the Office of Indian Affairs Web site.
 
Interestingly, Governor Gregoire helped draft the Centennial Accord when she worked as an assistant attorney general during Governor Booth Gardner’s administration. Then, when she became governor in 2005, she issued a proclamation reaffirming the goals of the accord and pledging her support."

[ICEMAN]