Will WDFW finally confirm more wolf packs in the Methow Valley?

[wolfbait]

I have no relation to Idaho Hunter. I only have 1 sister. You must be confusing me with someone else in the forum.

I read a little of what you posted. I was looking more for the bottom line. That's a little lengthy for me. Have a good night.

Don't waste your time reading most of anything he posts...wolfbait can't stand logic, data, and reason when it comes to wolf management and he never provides credible information...usually just more rhetoric and unfounded gossip.  He also likes to make up stuff about me or anyone else who provides logical thought on wolves...he has this fascination that anyone who doesn't believe his crazy talk is out to get him and is in on some grand conspiracy and works for WDFW/USFWS...its quite sad...but occasionally very entertaining 

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[GameHunter1959]

I have no relation to Idaho Hunter. I only have 1 sister. You must be confusing me with someone else in the forum.

I read a little of what you posted. I was looking more for the bottom line. That's a little lengthy for me. Have a good night.

Don't waste your time reading most of anything he posts...wolfbait can't stand logic, data, and reason when it comes to wolf management and he never provides credible information...usually just more rhetoric and unfounded gossip.  He also likes to make up stuff about me or anyone else who provides logical thought on wolves...he has this fascination that anyone who doesn't believe his crazy talk is out to get him and is in on some grand conspiracy and works for WDFW/USFWS...its quite sad...but occasionally very entertaining 

Ya..I just try and stay out of the arguing. The focus should be on what hunters can do, to help work with the WSDFW. I am not pro-wolf. But since wolves are here to stay; I would like to see them managed appropriately, when the wolf plan objectives are met. I will make my judgements on whether or not the WSDFW failed or a great job, when that time comes. Kinda hard to bash them, when they are in the middle of re-introducing them still.

Some people are gonna bash them, no matter how well they handle it. I'm just saying; give them a chance to pass or fail, before you bash the heck out of them.

[GameHunter1959]

I have no relation to Idaho Hunter. I only have 1 sister. You must be confusing me with someone else in the forum.

I read a little of what you posted. I was looking more for the bottom line. That's a little lengthy for me. Have a good night.

Don't waste your time reading most of anything he posts...wolfbait can't stand logic, data, and reason when it comes to wolf management and he never provides credible information...usually just more rhetoric and unfounded gossip.  He also likes to make up stuff about me or anyone else who provides logical thought on wolves...he has this fascination that anyone who doesn't believe his crazy talk is out to get him and is in on some grand conspiracy and works for WDFW/USFWS...its quite sad...but occasionally very entertaining 

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I will let the moderators deal with you. Your trying to bait us into an argument, by insinuating Idaho Hunter lacks intelligence (insulting him). Then your insulting me, by making remarks that I am Idaho Hunters brother, and my sister is named Bart. Your trying to make it personal. I can handle my own, but I enjoy Hunt Wa and don't want to risk getting banned. I beleive under the forum rules; insulting fellow Hunt Wa members is a direct violation of forum rules. It is grounds to be banned. I feel like you come on here looking for an argument, and want to push the forum rules limits.

Nothing wrong with being anti-wolf and voicing your opinion, but attacking other Hunt Wa members personally is not the proper way to make your points.

Again....have a good night.

[Romulus1297]

Anything is possible could be last name Better than a boy named Sue

[wolfbait]

I have no relation to Idaho Hunter. I only have 1 sister. You must be confusing me with someone else in the forum.

I read a little of what you posted. I was looking more for the bottom line. That's a little lengthy for me. Have a good night.

Don't waste your time reading most of anything he posts...wolfbait can't stand logic, data, and reason when it comes to wolf management and he never provides credible information...usually just more rhetoric and unfounded gossip.  He also likes to make up stuff about me or anyone else who provides logical thought on wolves...he has this fascination that anyone who doesn't believe his crazy talk is out to get him and is in on some grand conspiracy and works for WDFW/USFWS...its quite sad...but occasionally very entertaining 

Ya..I just try and stay out of the arguing. The focus should be on what hunters can do, to help work with the WSDFW. I am not pro-wolf. But since wolves are here to stay; I would like to see them managed appropriately, when the wolf plan objectives are met. I will make my judgements on whether or not the WSDFW failed or a great job, when that time comes. Kinda hard to bash them, when they are in the middle of re-introducing them still.

Some people are gonna bash them, no matter how well they handle it. I'm just saying; give them a chance to pass or fail, before you bash the heck out of them.

"Kinda hard to bash them, when they are in the middle of re-introducing them still."

Really GH, thats one of our main complaints, WDFW releasing wolves and then calling WA wolves, migrating wolves. That and they haven't managed wolves yet, they have mainly just lied to the rural folks who have to put up with the released wolves.

So the real questions are...

What was the status of the deer, elk, moose, cattle, and wolf populations in 2008 when this was happening?

What is the status of the deer, elk, moose, cattle, and wolf populations in 2013?

Did this specific area improve, decline, stay the same at all? What was the article about again, I seemed to have forgotten the baseline.

What They Didn’t Tell You About Wolf Recovery http://www.idahoforwildlife.com/Website%20articles/George%20Dovel/The_Outdoorsman%2026%20January%202008%20full%20report.pdf

[wolfbait]

I have no relation to Idaho Hunter. I only have 1 sister. You must be confusing me with someone else in the forum.

I read a little of what you posted. I was looking more for the bottom line. That's a little lengthy for me. Have a good night.

Don't waste your time reading most of anything he posts...wolfbait can't stand logic, data, and reason when it comes to wolf management and he never provides credible information...usually just more rhetoric and unfounded gossip.  He also likes to make up stuff about me or anyone else who provides logical thought on wolves...he has this fascination that anyone who doesn't believe his crazy talk is out to get him and is in on some grand conspiracy and works for WDFW/USFWS...its quite sad...but occasionally very entertaining 

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I will let the moderators deal with you. Your trying to bait us into an argument, by insinuating Idaho Hunter lacks intelligence (insulting him). Then your insulting me, by making remarks that I am Idaho Hunters brother, and my sister is named Bart. Your trying to make it personal. I can handle my own, but I enjoy Hunt Wa and don't want to risk getting banned. I beleive under the forum rules; insulting fellow Hunt Wa members is a direct violation of forum rules. It is grounds to be banned. I feel like you come on here looking for an argument, and want to push the forum rules limits.

Nothing wrong with being anti-wolf and voicing your opinion, but attacking other Hunt Wa members personally is not the proper way to make your points.

Again....have a good night.

Really? Yep I think jack should lope over here and inspect your complaints. Are you Idahohunters lawyer? I asked you a few questions, how does asking questions fit into insulting/arguing? Isn't that how people learn? You do know some people ask questions to learn , and others just keep peeing on the electric fence. And…….have a good day.

[Skyvalhunter]

Did it hurt when you peed on the fence?

[mountainman]

Hey Wolf, was in the valley yesterday..saw with my own eyes, rather the reading a report, tracks in the cub creek/rendevous/fawn creek area..hearts pass area, Thompson ridge, and frost road area. And 1 deer that wasn't in town...Saw quite a few in city limit..

[wolfbait]

I believe under the forum rules....

Name calling is grounds for being banned from participating on the Hunt Wa forum. 

If you are pro-wolf it's ok to call another member names: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,154420.0.html

If you are pro-wolf management, then it is definitely not ok. I think it has something to do with management.

[wolfbait]

Hey Wolf, was in the valley yesterday..saw with my own eyes, rather the reading a report, tracks in the cub creek/rendevous/fawn creek area..hearts pass area, Thompson ridge, and frost road area. And 1 deer that wasn't in town...Saw quite a few in city limit..

Thompson ridge had collared wolves on it in 2006, just a few years before the lie of first wolf  pack in 70 years.

[bearpaw]

I believe under the forum rules....

Name calling is grounds for being banned from participating on the Hunt Wa forum. 

If you are pro-wolf it's ok to call another member names: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,154420.0.html

If you are pro-wolf management, then it is definitely not ok. I think it has something to do with management.

Wolves are a very polarizing issue and many of us get drawn into posting less than desirable comments. The conversation will benefit if we (all) refrain from insults and name calling. I would like to ask everyone to please avoid the insults and name calling, it does nothing but degrade the conversation.

[WAcoyotehunter]

I have no relation to Idaho Hunter. I only have 1 sister. You must be confusing me with someone else in the forum.

I read a little of what you posted. I was looking more for the bottom line. That's a little lengthy for me. Have a good night.

Don't waste your time reading most of anything he posts...wolfbait can't stand logic, data, and reason when it comes to wolf management and he never provides credible information...usually just more rhetoric and unfounded gossip.  He also likes to make up stuff about me or anyone else who provides logical thought on wolves...he has this fascination that anyone who doesn't believe his crazy talk is out to get him and is in on some grand conspiracy and works for WDFW/USFWS...its quite sad...but occasionally very entertaining 

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Easy there Todd... or Spurs, Longshot... whatever your name is.

You're barking up the wrong tree if you're looking for an argument.

Bart George

[Bob33]

From where I sit the more bitter, angry, and personal a post is the less credibility it has. A few have lost credibility with me to the point that they’re essentially ignored, which is unfortunate because they may in fact have useful information.

[wolfbait]

I have no relation to Idaho Hunter. I only have 1 sister. You must be confusing me with someone else in the forum.

I read a little of what you posted. I was looking more for the bottom line. That's a little lengthy for me. Have a good night.

Don't waste your time reading most of anything he posts...wolfbait can't stand logic, data, and reason when it comes to wolf management and he never provides credible information...usually just more rhetoric and unfounded gossip.  He also likes to make up stuff about me or anyone else who provides logical thought on wolves...he has this fascination that anyone who doesn't believe his crazy talk is out to get him and is in on some grand conspiracy and works for WDFW/USFWS...its quite sad...but occasionally very entertaining 

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Easy there Todd... or Spurs, Longshot... whatever your name is.

You're barking up the wrong tree if you're looking for an argument.

Bart George

Is that you WC? Are you the same B. George that works for WDFW?

[WAcoyotehunter]

Bart George.  No, I don't work for WDFW.  Unless you consider a problem lion every so often.

What's your last name Todd?  It would be nice to break the anonymity.