Will WDFW finally confirm more wolf packs in the Methow Valley?

[wolfbait]

Will WDFW confirm more wolf packs in the Methow Valley?

A dog was attacked by wolves in McFarland Cr, WDFW set some traps and caught a female wolf. Sources say, WDFW think the McFarland cr wolves are a new wolf pack.

A guy in Pateros got several trail cam pics of wolves up McFarland creek, he also has some pics of wolves in Tiffany meadows and up on the Loup Loup.

 How long can WDFW claim every wolf in the Okanogan is part of the lookout pack?

[villageidiot]

If you were given money to study wolves and told to document packs but also told when you reach a certain number of packs we will not give you any more money.  You are also told that you and only you have the authority to declare packs.  You now are on your own and we will come back and remove your money if and when you reach the designated quota.
  So if I lie I get to eat but. If I tell the truth I will starve.  Eat or starve?

[idahohuntr]

If you were given money to study wolves and told to document packs but also told when you reach a certain number of packs we will not give you any more money.  You are also told that you and only you have the authority to declare packs.  You now are on your own and we will come back and remove your money if and when you reach the designated quota.
  So if I lie I get to eat but. If I tell the truth I will starve.  Eat or starve?

Your fictional fantasy would be mildly interesting to discuss in some ethics course...but what on earth does it have to do with wolf management in Washington?  Oh thats right...nothing.

[WAcoyotehunter]

Wolf funding is not going anywhere.  They aren't ignoring wolves to keep the "gravy train" coming.  Take a look at Idaho, Montana, Wyoming... they still have jobs and funding.

[wolfbait]

Wolf funding is not going anywhere.  They aren't ignoring wolves to keep the "gravy train" coming.  Take a look at Idaho, Montana, Wyoming... they still have jobs and funding.

We watched as the USFWS and IDFG played the same game for fourteen years that the USFWS and WDFW are playing now. You are right WC it has nothing to do with funding, instead it's all about making sure there are so many wolves that no matter what hunting practices are used, there will never be any true wolf control.

And like other states that had to go through the same fraud and corruption, many ranchers will go out of business and economies will be hurt. After all the wolf introduction was never about endangered wolves, but instead causing a hardship on ranchers, rural residents and reducing hunting.

If state and federal people make $$$$$$ thats just part of the program, a few more books can be written filled with how the wolves have balanced the ecosystem, made the aspen grow, and beavers flourish.

[idahohuntr]

Wolf funding is not going anywhere.  They aren't ignoring wolves to keep the "gravy train" coming.  Take a look at Idaho, Montana, Wyoming... they still have jobs and funding.

After all the wolf introduction was never about endangered wolves, but instead causing a hardship on ranchers, rural residents and reducing hunting.

Regardless of your perspective, WDFW has nothing to do with why wolves are here now.  They migrated from other areas naturally.  You can blame usfws for all your tinfoil hat conspiracies about ending rural living, but that is not the fault of wdfw...they were not part of the reintroduction.  Regardless of whatever wolf managment plan WDFW came up with wolves would still be here and they will be here forever...get used to it and stop living in the distant past.  How many more lies will you tell before you give up on your fantasy that wolves will destroy all hunting in Washington? 

[wolfbait]

Wolf funding is not going anywhere.  They aren't ignoring wolves to keep the "gravy train" coming.  Take a look at Idaho, Montana, Wyoming... they still have jobs and funding.

After all the wolf introduction was never about endangered wolves, but instead causing a hardship on ranchers, rural residents and reducing hunting.

Regardless of your perspective, WDFW has nothing to do with why wolves are here now.  They migrated from other areas naturally.  You can blame usfws for all your tinfoil hat conspiracies about ending rural living, but that is not the fault of wdfw...they were not part of the reintroduction.  Regardless of whatever wolf managment plan WDFW came up with wolves would still be here and they will be here forever...get used to it and stop living in the distant past.  How many more lies will you tell before you give up on your fantasy that wolves will destroy all hunting in Washington?

 Naturally, I bet it was quite the trip 

[Houndhunter]

If you were given money to study wolves and told to document packs but also told when you reach a certain number of packs we will not give you any more money.  You are also told that you and only you have the authority to declare packs.  You now are on your own and we will come back and remove your money if and when you reach the designated quota.
  So if I lie I get to eat but. If I tell the truth I will starve.  Eat or starve?

Your fictional fantasy would be mildly interesting to discuss in some ethics course...but what on earth does it have to do with wolf management in Washington?  Oh thats right...nothing.

This guy knows more bout wolves and their "management" in EA WA than you ever will, I'd listen up. You might be able to twist his info for saving more wolves......

[mfswallace]

Wolf funding is not going anywhere.  They aren't ignoring wolves to keep the "gravy train" coming.  Take a look at Idaho, Montana, Wyoming... they still have jobs and funding.

After all the wolf introduction was never about endangered wolves, but instead causing a hardship on ranchers, rural residents and reducing hunting.

Regardless of your perspective, WDFW has nothing to do with why wolves are here now.  They migrated from other areas naturally.  You can blame usfws for all your tinfoil hat conspiracies about ending rural living, but that is not the fault of wdfw...they were not part of the reintroduction.  Regardless of whatever wolf managment plan WDFW came up with wolves would still be here and they will be here forever...get used to it and stop living in the distant past.  How many more lies will you tell before you give up on your fantasy that wolves will destroy all hunting in Washington?

       you r funny

[idahohuntr]

If you were given money to study wolves and told to document packs but also told when you reach a certain number of packs we will not give you any more money.  You are also told that you and only you have the authority to declare packs.  You now are on your own and we will come back and remove your money if and when you reach the designated quota.
  So if I lie I get to eat but. If I tell the truth I will starve.  Eat or starve?

Your fictional fantasy would be mildly interesting to discuss in some ethics course...but what on earth does it have to do with wolf management in Washington?  Oh thats right...nothing.

This guy knows more bout wolves and their "management" in EA WA than you ever will, I'd listen up. You might be able to twist his info for saving more wolves......

Yeaaaaaaa...in a fantasy world he does.  In reality, he is clueless about wolf management and funding wildlife management. But thanks for your input    

[timberfaller]

Hey spudhunter You might want to heed houndhunters advice

I know the guy also,  I'll let him, if he is so inclined to tell you his "work" background

I've watched and read most of your goings on back and forth post on wolves.

Hey wolfbait, how are those "grizzly's" doing behind Sun Mt.!!

[wolfbait]

Hey spudhunter You might want to heed houndhunters advice

I know the guy also,  I'll let him, if he is so inclined to tell you his "work" background

I've watched and read most of your goings on back and forth post on wolves.

Hey wolfbait, how are those "grizzly's" doing behind Sun Mt.!!

X2

The Methow Valley hasn't had anymore 99.9% sightings of grizzly bears since the early 1990's. From my understanding WDFW's grizzly bear funding went into introducing wolves. One of our county commissioners did catch WDFW releasing grizzly bears up by the JR campground on the Loup some years back. They tried to lie out of it, but the commissioner went to the top for his answers.

Folks in the Methow have seen a few in the upper reaches of the Twisp river, and occasionally up towards Harts Pass in the last twenty years.

[WAcoyotehunter]

Which commissioner?  This sounds like another "big story".... breaking news!!

[timberfaller]

Hey Wolfbait,

Your two nemeses are either showing their age(too young) or are just plain clueless as to the "outdoors"

Give me a shout back if you know about the "story" of the Sun Mt Grizzly that I am referring to them are sure some funny looking grizzly tracks!! LOL

Did you ever see the picture of the one Eilis Peters shot at the Mazama junction??

[wolfbait]

Hey Wolfbait,

Your two nemeses are either showing their age(too young) or are just plain clueless as to the "outdoors"

Give me a shout back if you know about the "story" of the Sun Mt Grizzly that I am referring to them are sure some funny looking grizzly tracks!! LOL

Did you ever see the picture of the one Eilis Peters shot at the Mazama junction??

I posted the 99.9% chance of a grizzly bear sighting on WH, it's back in the wolf threads somewhere. 

Actually there are three people who shoot blanks for WDFW, one only shows up to defend WDFW's "wolf migrations", soon the falling down starts and then the name calling. The pro-wolf crowd is allowed to call names because they are special.

Hippie Wolf Activist Gets Stoned, Knocks over Lava Lamp & Burns Down Treehouse *** WA - Moon Java Bongmeister, age, 62 has become yet another casuality of the 1960's hippie era -- victim of a painful lava lamp accident. "He was really upset after returning from Idaho to protest the killing of wolves," said his daughter Skylark Daisychain Bongmeister. "He became really depressed when he learned that WDFW had not told him about their recent wolf release in NC WA. Last time I saw him like this was after we got back from a "Stop Killing Houseflies" protest and drum circle rally in San Francisco. His depression led to him smoking up all of his medical marijuana and drinking all of his Mogan David (mad-dog) wine. That's when it happened," said, another daughter by a different mother, Daydream Butterfly Bongmeister. Dad was so stoned he knocked over a lava lamp and started his tree house on fire. He lost everything. His bell bottom pants, his love bead necklaces, all of his head-bands, his Grateful Dead albums, his Woodstock posters and even his prized Patchouli Oil Collection. "It's all those Idaho hunters fault. They don't respect the wolf spirits and the energy life forces in the cosmic soup of life, said Skylark Daisychain Bongmeister. "It's time for the Bongmeister family to come together and 'spark a bowl" of ganja and try to forget WDFW's DNA tested migrating wolves," she said... "