The “Naturally Migrating” GI Wolves

[wolfbait]

The “Naturally Migrating” GI Wolves
http://tomremington.com/2014/06/09/the-naturally-migrating-gi-wolves/

[idahohuntr]

The “Naturally Migrating” GI Wolves
http://tomremington.com/2014/06/09/the-naturally-migrating-gi-wolves/

Gee...this "Todd" and "wolfbait" seem to have similar dillusions.  I find it funny that you obviously linked an article that you wrote to try and play it off as more credible.  Unfortunately your conspiracy theories are just too stupid to not recognize...regardless of what name you want to use. 

[WAcoyotehunter]

The “Naturally Migrating” GI Wolves
http://tomremington.com/2014/06/09/the-naturally-migrating-gi-wolves/

Gee...this "Todd" and "wolfbait" seem to have similar dillusions.  I find it funny that you obviously linked an article that you wrote to try and play it off as more credible.  Unfortunately your conspiracy theories are just too stupid to not recognize...regardless of what name you want to use. 

simply amazing.

[wolfbait]

The “Naturally Migrating” GI Wolves
http://tomremington.com/2014/06/09/the-naturally-migrating-gi-wolves/

Gee...this "Todd" and "wolfbait" seem to have similar dillusions.  I find it funny that you obviously linked an article that you wrote to try and play it off as more credible.  Unfortunately your conspiracy theories are just too stupid to not recognize...regardless of what name you want to use. 

simply amazing.

Great come-back guys, I bet you spent allot of time discussing the best answer for the information posted.

The fact that the USFWS and WDFW can't even get their stories straight as to where the Lookout pack came from shows ultimate stupidity, and then throw in Fitkin's over zealous response of BS, which is laughable says quite a bit about both agencies. I guess when they only have to BS their fans it doesn't really matter how many times they lie.  If you like your doctor, you can keep him/her.

It is getting harder for the pro-wolf crowd to defend a corrupt agency where the head of the department claims to know nothing about what is going on below him. Maybe he is just too busy for the dirty details? Or is he just another puppet under the USFWS, perhaps he is lying to the public of his own accord, after all by the time everything really starts heading south he will be retired. Welcome to the Fraud and Corruption of the USFWS Wolf Introduction.

[WAcoyotehunter]

You are the only one with a different story.  The wolves in the Methow came here from Canada, the wolves in NE came over from Glacier then up from central ID.  There is evidence (real evidence) of those dispersals. 

Again, you have nothing to base your claims on.  We didn't have to get too creative and "discuss our arguments"...  our argument is based on factual, defendable, evidence.  Yours is based on a few "friend of a friend eyewitness accounts". 

Fitkin is not the one in the valley that is over zealous.

[idahohuntr]

There are many reasonable things to debate regarding wolf management:  How and when will they be de-listed? How many bp should washington have? What is the best strategy for minimizing their impacts to ungulates? Will we get to hunt wolves in WA? How many wolves should we manage for?

Why wolfy wants to drum up irrelevant and unsupportable claims about wolves is confusing.  There are plenty of real issues to debate and discuss...these conspiracy theories are unnecessary and frankly damaging to the reputation of hunters. 

[WAcoyotehunter]

Good point. 

We have our work cut out for us to get them counted and move towards management.  Picking fights with the bureaucrats over how they got here really is irrelevant.

[wolfbait]

You are the only one with a different story.  The wolves in the Methow came here from Canada, the wolves in NE came over from Glacier then up from central ID.  There is evidence (real evidence) of those dispersals. 

Again, you have nothing to base your claims on.  We didn't have to get too creative and "discuss our arguments"...  our argument is based on factual, defendable, evidence.  Yours is based on a few "friend of a friend eyewitness accounts". 

Fitkin is not the one in the valley that is over zealous.

"The wolves in the Methow came here from Canada, the wolves in NE came over from Glacier then up from central ID."

Theres a small problem with your factual, defendable evidence  WC, the wolves in the NE didn't exist on paper in 2008. I'm sure they were planted before 2008, but I don't think it's wise on your part to let that bit of info out of the bag.

Will WDFW switch from migrating wolves to dispersals, now, did you get permission?

Rural folks all over WA have caught WDFW releasing wolves, I don't think WDFW really care what they have been caught at, they know they can lie, or threaten people to get out of any trouble. People that have to deal with wolves shoved on them don't count, it's the fans that control the vote that count, at the same time it sure isn't going to look too shiny when it comes out how WA really got most of it's wolves. And it is going too come out.

[wolfbait]

There are many reasonable things to debate regarding wolf management:  How and when will they be de-listed? How many bp should washington have? What is the best strategy for minimizing their impacts to ungulates? Will we get to hunt wolves in WA? How many wolves should we manage for?

Why wolfy wants to drum up irrelevant and unsupportable claims about wolves is confusing.  There are plenty of real issues to debate and discuss...these conspiracy theories are unnecessary and frankly damaging to the reputation of hunters. 

Didn't WDFW's pro-wolf working group already set the amount of wolves WA should have, not that it really means anything as WDFW refuse to confirm wolves unless they are forced to do so. Delisting will be just another number jerked out of the sky by WDFW, they alone will decide when to confirm the last BP.  Minimizing their impacts? Hell WDFW don't even manage the predators that aren't "endangered", we have already been through that pile. First WDFW would need to quit lying, I don't see any evidence of that in the near future, they will just keep jerking numbers out of the sky and go from there for their wolf count. Will we hunt wolves in WA? Not if WDFW and their friends have their say, maybe after several lawsuits by friends of WDFW and the USFWS.  How many wolves should we manage? I don't think there has ever been a public WE from the start of wolves, it has always been a USFWS and state agency We. 

Like now, and as time goes one and more evidence is exposed of wolf releases by the USFWS and WDFW, you and the rest of the pro-wolf crowd will want to talk about some other part of the wolf program>>>>>Wolves make the aspen grow, balance the ecosystem, and beavers flourish.

[idahohuntr]

Settle down wolfy...I just tossed out a half-dozen topics that if you were to discuss there might be something useful to consider...lately its just been absurd conspiracy thats not true and you know it.  You lie more than any government agency...by a long-shot.  I think we should set a timeline when all of your evidence will be reported and everyone will know wolves were planted...otherwise you have to move on to a new conspiracy   

[wolfbait]

Good point. 

We have our work cut out for us to get them counted and move towards management.  Picking fights with the bureaucrats over how they got here really is irrelevant.

We have already seen how the USFWS and state game agencies count and manage wolves, look at the Yellowstone and Lolo elk herds as an example. Don't you think part of management would be confirming wolf packs, lying about wolf predation on livestock has not helped the "movement towards management".

Who's picking a fight, or is telling the truth against the rules?

[wolfbait]

Settle down wolfy...I just tossed out a half-dozen topics that if you were to discuss there might be something useful to consider...lately its just been absurd conspiracy thats not true and you know it.  You lie more than any government agency...by a long-shot.  I think we should set a timeline when all of your evidence will be reported and everyone will know wolves were planted...otherwise you have to move on to a new conspiracy   

That's the cool thing about this evidence, time really doesn't matter anymore. By the time WDFW are finally forced to delist WA will be mostly wolf country.

We watch your falling down and now the name calling starts, are you going to stick with that one or jump around again?

[idahohuntr]

Settle down wolfy...I just tossed out a half-dozen topics that if you were to discuss there might be something useful to consider...lately its just been absurd conspiracy thats not true and you know it.  You lie more than any government agency...by a long-shot.  I think we should set a timeline when all of your evidence will be reported and everyone will know wolves were planted...otherwise you have to move on to a new conspiracy   

That's the cool thing about this evidence, time really doesn't matter anymore. By the time WDFW are finally forced to delist WA will be mostly wolf country.

We watch your falling down and now the name calling starts, are you going to stick with that one or jump around again?

Wolfy, It's OK you don't have any evidence.  Just admit it and move on to something useful. 

[WAcoyotehunter]

You are the only one with a different story.  The wolves in the Methow came here from Canada, the wolves in NE came over from Glacier then up from central ID.  There is evidence (real evidence) of those dispersals. 

Again, you have nothing to base your claims on.  We didn't have to get too creative and "discuss our arguments"...  our argument is based on factual, defendable, evidence.  Yours is based on a few "friend of a friend eyewitness accounts". 

Fitkin is not the one in the valley that is over zealous.

"The wolves in the Methow came here from Canada, the wolves in NE came over from Glacier then up from central ID."

Theres a small problem with your factual, defendable evidence  WC, the wolves in the NE didn't exist on paper in 2008. I'm sure they were planted before 2008, but I don't think it's wise on your part to let that bit of info out of the bag.

Will WDFW switch from migrating wolves to dispersals, now, did you get permission?

Rural folks all over WA have caught WDFW releasing wolves, I don't think WDFW really care what they have been caught at, they know they can lie, or threaten people to get out of any trouble. People that have to deal with wolves shoved on them don't count, it's the fans that control the vote that count, at the same time it sure isn't going to look too shiny when it comes out how WA really got most of it's wolves. And it is going too come out.

Tell me more about this conspiracy in NE Washington.  I'm eager to hear what you can come up with, as I've had my finger on the pulse of wolf activity up this way for quite a while.

[wolfbait]

Settle down wolfy...I just tossed out a half-dozen topics that if you were to discuss there might be something useful to consider...lately its just been absurd conspiracy thats not true and you know it.  You lie more than any government agency...by a long-shot.  I think we should set a timeline when all of your evidence will be reported and everyone will know wolves were planted...otherwise you have to move on to a new conspiracy   

That's the cool thing about this evidence, time really doesn't matter anymore. By the time WDFW are finally forced to delist WA will be mostly wolf country.

We watch your falling down and now the name calling starts, are you going to stick with that one or jump around again?

Wolfy, It's OK you don't have any evidence.  Just admit it and move on to something useful.

If you and WC think we don't have any evidence, what is the problem? Trot along junior, go defend the wolves over at DoW. Cheers