New High Hunt opportunity?

[arrowflinger]

I think the hikers need to wear hi vis clothing during the entire season. Last year while while creeping through the dark timber I came upon a nice round black bear (or so i thought) 40 yards. Fortunately for the completely moronic fat guy dressed in all black during bear season bent over picking mushrooms, I wanted to see the bears head before putting a couple of 12 gage  threw it. It's a real *censored*ty feeling knowing that you were 5 seconds from shooting someone inadvertently. I hope the forest service has the decency to warn the greenies but I doubt it.

It's not the public's responsibility to be sure of one's target.

There is no such thing as "inadvertently" shooting someone. That's on you, entirely.

Knowing your target is your responsibility, hikers have the right to enjoy the outdoors as much as hunters.
As for orange, I will wear it for the hunter that needs help identifying his target.

[Special T]

This topic rears its head from time to time.

A prudent person would be wise to be visible during hunting seasons.

Requiring everyone to wear orange during hunting seasons would imply that hunters aren't capable of determining the difference between a bear and a human. One might thus conclude that hunters are the moronic fat slobs.

I agree entirely. That is why I am against hunters being required to wear orange. Apparently we agree on this.

There is the RUB huh... if "Safety" is the reason for orange then it would be wise for all people in the woods during hunting season to wear it, or at least promote it to the general public to wear some bright colors. I know i try and wear bright colors when walking the Silver Arrow Bowmen archery range and it is laid out with safety as its main concern...

[skagitsteel]

I just noticed this thread.... I agree with others this hunt is not a good idea   I think part of the draw of a wilderness hunt is to leave civilization behind.  There are a few areas in this wilderness that have deer and hunting one of those will be nothing like a wilderness experience. Blacktails are sneaky, I would expect a very low harvest with all the pressure.  Hopefully this hunt is a one year only deal, could really screw up the bear/ deer populations in the future. Hikers are gong to love this one.  For those of you that think this hunt is a good idea I would recommend starting out at Artist point, just roll up around noon and step out of the truck with your hunter orange and camo and start glassing.
 

[Stein]

I'm going to give it a go, it can't be any more crowded then even some of the joke of a cow tag draws that I have been suckered into.

I don't know much, but the official wilderness areas is pretty huge and spread out.  WDFW told me the entire wilderness area is fair game.  Whether the more remote sections hold animals or not I have yet to find out.  Even if they don't today, they likely will two hours after first lite on the opener.

From my perspective, it is a new possibility pretty close to my house.  I can see how people who have honey holes for bear aren't too excited and don't blame them one bit.

[wooltie]

I too am considering MT.B for the high hunt..possibly doing a weekend trip in mid-July to check out an area.  If not Mt.B, then possible the ALW.

Problem is, anywhere a ROAD exists there is bound to be some popular, frequented, hiking trail / destination.  Like I'm checking out potential areas along I-90 for elk, but there may just be wayy too many people for my taste.

I don't mind conversing with hikers, nor do I mind being around them; I just hate glassing an area and having hikers walk into the firing zone...

Seems impossible to get away from the hiking crew unless you find a forest road that leads to nowhere...

Maybe one needs to access a wilderness from the other side of the pass in order to see fewer hikers.

[3nails]

 I think there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be confused by the wilderness, national park, and national forrest boundaries. They intersect several times.

[skagitsteel]

I think there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be confused by the wilderness, national park, and national forrest boundaries. They intersect several times.

I think there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be confused by the wilderness, national park, and national forrest boundaries. They intersect several times.

I think there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be confused by the wilderness, national park, and national forrest boundaries. They intersect several times.

Yeah and they don't make sense, really choppy wilderness area, a lot of High country that's not actually part of the wilderness.

[bullfisher]

The more hunting opertunities the better. Seems like a lot of scare tactics on this thread to keep people out of an area. 117, 000 acres? I don't think anyone should have a problem avoiding each other, niether will the deer.

[haugenna]

The more hunting opertunities the better. Seems like a lot of scare tactics on this thread to keep people out of an area. 117, 000 acres? I don't think anyone should have a problem avoiding each other, niether will the deer.

If you were familiar with the area you would understand it is not "scare tactics".  While there is a lot of acreage in the area there is a limited amount of the high alpine areas that everybody will be hunting for the most part. And all those areas are fairly easily accessible. Not to mention thousands of tree hugging hikers are all over those trails that time of year. The better areas up the are too crowded during the general season when many of the locals head to the east side. Being that there are limited areas open in the early hunt I'm sure that area will see more pressure than it ever has. I think It would have been a great idea to open it for a draw area with a limited number of tags.

You just desribed a bunch of drainages in Glacier Peak and Alpine lakes.  The deer will feel the pressure and move into the timber and be just fine.  I counted 27 hunters within one drainage one year in GPW.  Not counting the hikers.  The high hunt has a lot of pressure and people continue to notch their tag or go on a camping with a gun trip.  The first year will be a zoo with the newness of the hunt, the next year will be a lull because everyone will stay away because of the crowds the previous year.  Then the opener will be mid week and the crowds will be small due to the lack of vacation.  Then opener will hit a weekend and it will be a zoo again.  Then some idiot will post a nice buck on the internet and tell everyone where he or she shot it and it will be a zoo again.  Welcome to the high hunt.

[kodiak 907]

 :yeah:you nailed it

[actionshooter]

The more hunting opertunities the better. Seems like a lot of scare tactics on this thread to keep people out of an area. 117, 000 acres? I don't think anyone should have a problem avoiding each other, niether will the deer.

If you were familiar with the area you would understand it is not "scare tactics".  While there is a lot of acreage in the area there is a limited amount of the high alpine areas that everybody will be hunting for the most part. And all those areas are fairly easily accessible. Not to mention thousands of tree hugging hikers are all over those trails that time of year. The better areas up the are too crowded during the general season when many of the locals head to the east side. Being that there are limited areas open in the early hunt I'm sure that area will see more pressure than it ever has. I think It would have been a great idea to open it for a draw area with a limited number of tags.

You just desribed a bunch of drainages in Glacier Peak and Alpine lakes.  The deer will feel the pressure and move into the timber and be just fine.  I counted 27 hunters within one drainage one year in GPW.  Not counting the hikers.  The high hunt has a lot of pressure and people continue to notch their tag or go on a camping with a gun trip.  The first year will be a zoo with the newness of the hunt, the next year will be a lull because everyone will stay away because of the crowds the previous year.  Then the opener will be mid week and the crowds will be small due to the lack of vacation.  Then opener will hit a weekend and it will be a zoo again.  Then some idiot will post a nice buck on the internet and tell everyone where he or she shot it and it will be a zoo again.  Welcome to the high hunt.

 Exactly, This is why my high hunt involves another state....