Speer 130 over 58 grains H4831 seems to stir in my memory from reading O'Connor. or maybe that was a pie recipe? G with the 7mm-08 over .243. You can load it anyway you want, light 120 grain or heavy 175s. 140 grains at 2800fps just drop the deer in their tracks. Then again, the 120 grain youth load at 2600 does the same!