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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2014, 06:18:07 PM »
The pyrodex pellets always go boom for me and 3 pellets definetly has more punch.A friend and I both used the load I described and had no trouble dispatching two giant Nooksack bulls last season.When u are shaking like crazy pellets way easier to reload.

I still dropped my pellets reloading after first shot. Couldnt stop shaking.
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2014, 07:26:54 PM »
The pyrodex pellets always go boom for me and 3 pellets definetly has more punch.A friend and I both used the load I described and had no trouble dispatching two giant Nooksack bulls last season.When u are shaking like crazy pellets way easier to reload.

I still dropped my pellets reloading after first shot. Couldnt stop shaking.


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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2014, 07:30:41 PM »
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2014, 07:42:20 PM »
How is that a waste of powder if my gun shoots that load the best? I would shoot only 120 grains if they were 60 grain pellets but their not. There are five guys in our camp and we all shoot the same load. When the freezers are full of meat I can handle a little waste of powder :tup:

If it works, it works. But from what Ive read your probably only burning about 120 grains of powder and blowing 30 grains out the end of the barrel or leaving it as residue. Myself,I'm not a fan of pellets. I dont feel they are as reliable or adjustable as loose powder. Theres a lot of weapons out there that arent designed for 150 grains, and a few older ones that say they are. But they arent safe to shoot it in them due to inferior barrels.

Sounds to me like you already realize that when you say you would shoot 120 grains but cant get them in 60 grain pellets.

Like I said. Its a waste of powder. But thats a small price to pay when your putting meat in the freezer.

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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2014, 07:42:29 PM »
I have been told somewhere along the line that it takes more pellets to have the same effect as powder. My gun shot really well with 3 - 50 grain Triple 7 pellets and the velocity was quite a bit better than when I shot 2 - pellets. I have now switched to powder because quicker more reliable ignition. There is a lag sometimes with the ignition when using pellets. I think I am using the 290 grain Barnes bullet.
I've heard the same thing. I also use three pellets. I use them under a 250 grain sst. But I have only hunted deer with mine. I'm going to try out the bloodlines this weekend.

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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2014, 07:44:26 PM »
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2014, 08:04:24 PM »
This spike ran 100 feet after I shot him at end of muzzel with Prodex pellets 2, 50 grain and a 310 sabot.
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2014, 08:15:41 PM »

This spike ran 100 feet after I shot him at end of muzzel with Prodex pellets 2, 50 grain and a 310 sabot.

Now that is a massive spike!
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2014, 08:18:34 PM »
I use Loose only in any of my Muzzle loaders, whether it is a .410, .451 or .504 cal rifle. Pellets as stated can and will have a longer lag between cap ignition and powder ignition this is proven over and over.

I use 75-85gr T7 in my .504's with either a 495gr or 510gr lead conical. I get 1" groups at 100 yards constantly with either of these combinations. The Bear in my avatar I took at 75 yards with the 510 grain conical over 85gr T7ffg powder. The Bear did not take a step DRT (dead rite there) and the bullet was a complete pass through.  I can shoot 150 grains in my .504's however there is no gain in accuracy and just beats my shoulder up.  :twocents:

 
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2014, 08:18:41 PM »

This spike ran 100 feet after I shot him at end of muzzel with Prodex pellets 2, 50 grain and a 310 sabot.

Now that is a massive spike!
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2014, 10:36:42 PM »
For what it's worth, I did a little test using a chronograph about two years ago. I first fired a 300 Grain SST and a 350 grain FPB using TWO 50 grain pellets. I then shot the same bullets with 100 grains of loose powder in 777 ff.

The 300 SST picked up 230 fps using 777 and the 350 FPB picked up 240 fps with 777.   This was out of a TC Black Diamond with a 22 inch barrel.

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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2014, 10:40:44 PM »
This spike ran 100 feet after I shot him at end of muzzel with Prodex pellets 2, 50 grain and a 310 sabot.

Next time use a 3rd pellet and you'll drop him right in his tracks.
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2014, 10:43:00 PM »
By the way, that was a joke.......

I do shoot 3 pellets behind a 400 grain Harvester hard cast lead saboted bullet.      Elk hate them.   I've never seen such devastating wound channels.
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2014, 06:15:56 AM »
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Re: Muzzleloader for elk
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2014, 06:28:22 AM »
In WA where 209 are not legal there is no way your burning all 150. I will never use pellets again in a muzzy...I have had more hangfires in a year than in my whole life with loose. I use 90gr of Triple 7 and 300gr Barnes bullets.

 


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